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	<title>Comments on: Barbary lions in the Tower of London</title>
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	<description>History fetish? What history fetish?</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sad that there aren't any more of those lions in the Wild... I'm pritty sure that you could get better studys of the Lions in the Wild than in Captivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sad that there aren&#8217;t any more of those lions in the Wild&#8230; I&#8217;m pritty sure that you could get better studys of the Lions in the Wild than in Captivity.</p>
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		<title>By: livius drusus</title>
		<link>http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/253#comment-14384</link>
		<dc:creator>livius drusus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not so sure gift animals for the Royal Menagerie would necessarily be good examples of larger market structures like trade routes and agreements. They could easily have ended up in a special shipment from ruler to ruler.

Unless they can find some specific reference to the Barbary lions in period documents, I don't see how they could know anything at all about how they got there.

I think about that stuff too, Shea, like how poachers would be hung for catching a rabbit in the Royal Forests. It's amazing to think about that kind of callous wealth and control contrasted with regular people's lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure gift animals for the Royal Menagerie would necessarily be good examples of larger market structures like trade routes and agreements. They could easily have ended up in a special shipment from ruler to ruler.</p>
<p>Unless they can find some specific reference to the Barbary lions in period documents, I don&#8217;t see how they could know anything at all about how they got there.</p>
<p>I think about that stuff too, Shea, like how poachers would be hung for catching a rabbit in the Royal Forests. It&#8217;s amazing to think about that kind of callous wealth and control contrasted with regular people&#8217;s lives.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyShea</title>
		<link>http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/253#comment-14383</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyShea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it seems to me not much can be gleaned about the pattern of the traffic from knowing about the mere existence of the lions in the middle ages&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, the specific origin of any animal remains found might give a hint about trade routes and/or trade agreements. Not much to go on, for sure, but a hint at where to start looking maybe.

Interesting story, though. The whole idea of a "Royal Menagerie" is kinda fascinating when you consider the entire social structure of the time period...were citizens starving but the lions fed? That kinda thing always comes to my mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it seems to me not much can be gleaned about the pattern of the traffic from knowing about the mere existence of the lions in the middle ages</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, the specific origin of any animal remains found might give a hint about trade routes and/or trade agreements. Not much to go on, for sure, but a hint at where to start looking maybe.</p>
<p>Interesting story, though. The whole idea of a &#8220;Royal Menagerie&#8221; is kinda fascinating when you consider the entire social structure of the time period&#8230;were citizens starving but the lions fed? That kinda thing always comes to my mind</p>
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