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It’s amazing to me that an event as thoroughly documented and investigated as the Holocaust can still end up producing such a gigantic new find.

Does anyone know how pictures from Birkenau ended up at Auschwitz?

Love your blog. Discoveries such as this, or the Ferguson ‘flat earth’ map, demonstrate so well the horrors of religion. Thanks.

David, in the present case, you are referring to the “National Socialist Religion” I imagine? Ed G.

The Holocaust never happened so this “New Evidence” is just more of the same old lies…

As a historian I have worked with Holocaust for some years, and I have visited the main sites (except Belsec). I find this very interesting indeed. I believe similar attempts have been made at Sobibor, although using more intrusive methods.

This really isn’t about “proving” the Holocaust; I have no time for the deniers. It is about finding facts and minutiae of History, bringing to light and life what happened in this dark and deliberately obscured period.

@JGillard

Going on the presumption that you failed basic secondary school history (otherwise you would never have made the above comment) I’m not going to ask you to give any kind of reason for your view (mainly because i don’t want to read any Neo-Nazi propaganda, thank you very much) I’m simply going to suggest that you listen to this programme when it airs and actually attempt to understand (Don’t worry if it’s a bit beyond you, just go to BBCiplayer and listen again until you manage to understand all the long words) and perhaps show a bit of human compassion (if at all possible). Then go online and google holocaust… then once you’ve got some grasp of the topic come back and make a comment vaguely resembling intellegent.

Please remember that my great-aunt was incarcerated at Auschwitz and had the six digit tattoo to prove it (she died eight years ago, and i am old enough to remeber seeing the tattoo first hand). If that’s not enough then google the Nuremburg trials, it happened and they admitted it even if “we were just following orders” was the worst possible defence ever written.

I have proof that the holocaust happened and your denial is the worst possible insult.

Although not an historian, I am interested in this period of history and will be listening to the radio programme with some interest. The excellent BBC mini-series Auschwitz – The Nazis and the Final Solution has a couple of eye-witness accounts from people who were there at Treblinka. It also has interviews with Oscar Groening, a German soldier who worked at Auschwitz. At the end of the war he, understandably, did not mention this but later realised that the deniers were overly vocal. He came forward to state categorically that it DID happen. It is important that such sites are investigated, documented and preserved for future generations. Indeed, Hitler’s eastern headquarters at th Wolfsschanze is being upgraded to provide better hotel accomodation for its many visitors.

I, too, look forward to the broadcast as most (all) of you. What I can’t figure out is the point of anyone who appears to refute documented facts in (recent) history.

The Holocost was not ancient history. This isn’t like debating if there was a Lost city of Atlantis, or interpretting ancient cave dwelling images. If someone isn’t on board with translating those cave drawings into extra-terrestrials landing on Earth and giving tutorials to the Egyptions re: Pyramid construction for Dummies…ok. I get it. A little too too much for some. No problem. But claiming none (or most) of the events didn’t take place during a war that was a mere 60 years ago is laughable. It’s either a case of Internet trolling..an intentional post, comment, remark, question or image..designed to rile, create un-rest, or cause a stir..

Or, an individual who enjoys being contrary to one and all. Contradicting facts being their personal M.O. Everyone says white, the pot-stirrer says black. Anti-social..a real rebel without a cause. Yeesh.

For every document found, there is still so much yet to be discovered and investigated re: the Death Camps and it’s occupants. There are still people who are survivors out there to tell the tale and it can be proven.

Here’s to learning all we can.

This is not the first time that such studies have been done. This new study by the BBC is only done to confuse and cover up the facts that were discovered by the earlier studies by Richard Krege, an Australian engineer:

“For six days in October 1999, an Australian team headed by Richard Krege, a qualified electronics engineer, carried out an examination of the soil at the site of the former Treblinka II camp in Poland. … Krege’s team used an $80,000 Ground Penetration Radar (GPR) device, which sends out vertical radar signals that are visible on a computer monitor. GPR detects any large-scale disturbances in the soil structure to a normal effective depth of four or five meters, and sometimes up to ten meters. (GPR devices are routinely used around the world by geologists, archeologists, and police.) In its Treblinka investigation, Krege’s team also carried out visual soil inspections, and used an auger to take numerous soil core samples…. The team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, Krege and his team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes, or wood ashes….. Krege says that he would welcome the formation, possibly under United Nations auspices, of an international team of neutral, qualified specialists, to carry out similar investigations at the sites of all the wartime German camps.”

Just for laughs why doesn’t the BBC do a scientific investigation for a change? Say for example go and investigate the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads that according to the Nuremberg trials were made by the bad, bad Germans! Or figure out why the Germans carefully tattooed and kept records of people who were to be Gassed to death in less than thirty minutes? According to the Holocaust-Myth the people who got to the camps were ALL killed in less than 30min in gas chambers, yet they have NEVER shown even one single body Jewish or otherwise that was killed in a German gas chamber during the second world war; NOT ONE BODY! There should be billions of them according to the Holocaust religion priests, but no one could ever find one! Considering that the Allies supposedly walked into these camps while the mythical gasings were taking place and they did thousands of medical examinations of the people in Poland, live and dead, they should have found at least ONE!

So, leave the soil alone and let’s scientifically examine the billions of Jewish Shrunken heads, Tattooed Jewish skin lampshades, and Jewish fat soaps that the Nuremberg trials tried to show as undeniable evidence for gas chambers, because they could not find any real evidence!

First of all I’m not a Holocaust Denier. Being of Latvian-American origin my own family saw the Holocaust take place in Nazi occupied Latvia. Secondly my University Education is Cultural Anthropology not Physical Anthropology. Yet, I’ve done extensive research on the Treblinka site read the maps, testimony of the escapees and trial accounts. And seen models made by the survivors.

I do see a major inconsistency in Caroline Sturdy Colls reported locations of burial pits. She places the major burial pits smack in the middle of the Camp II Sorting Yard and Sorting Warehouses according to Richard Glazers’ account where these were located.

Secondly the reported gas chamber foundations are in consistent with eye wittiness accounts. These reported location would lay in the earthen mounds the Nazis had employed to hide the upper camp from eyesight.

Third in consistency. The location of the “undressing huts” far to south and where is “the tunnel” the victims were forced to march to their fate?

Fourth, Her reported burial pits do correspond with the Polish and Red Army survey of 1947 to descriptions of looter pits they discovered upon their visit and final cordoning off of Treblinka in 1947.

Perhaps I’m missing something. Might be there more detailed site of her teams findings? Or will shall this data be published?

J Gillard – Holocaust never happened

so where are the 6 million jews that lived in europe ?

You, Sir, are delusional at best.

Exactly where had Krege published anything about his trip to Treblinka? No, a single picture and a blurb does not count.

Since Krege himself is unable to publish his report, and every holocaust denier on the planet seems unable to provide any verifiable information on the results or the methodology of this nonexistent report, you have a choice when it comes to how you want to be judged. Your choices are to either be branded a liar, or an ignoramus. We cannot rule out the possibility of both, however.

The soap myth is just that – a myth. Incidentally debunked by real historians, not ideologically driven amateurs like yourself.

My comment was a reply to: Anonymous’ post 2012-01-24 01:17:47.

What happened to six million human beings?

Simple math

Dig a pit 26 meters wide 7 meters deep. Take one person and cremate them reducing them to ash and bone weighting .91 kilograms. How many human beings would then be needed to fill that pit?

Once you figure out the simple math. You have a pretty good idea of what happened to all those Jewish victims.

Such places Birkenau had pits of 70 to 100 meters by 7 meters. Human fat still to this day seeps up to the surface after a hard rain and much of the surround forest is off limits since you’ll sink up to your knees into ash dumps.

So you ask for a “detailed report on his Treblinka investigation.” That is a fair thing to ask for. I mention the Krege’s report simply because the BBC statements make it appear as if such Ground penetrating radar studies have never been done by anyone else in the past. But consider the fate of those who went down the path of writing a truthful report on the Holocaust Myth. Firstly, Who will publish it for them? There may be such a report on some obscure webpage that has not been terminated yet, but no scientific journal would dare to publish such a report. Take a look at those who wrote similar reports in the past:

Germar Rudolf a chemist wrote the The Rudolf Report: “Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz (2001)”, he was picked up and put in jail. Not by fact, but rather BY LAW the holocaust happened and any one who asks or looks for factual evidence or presents Facts about the Holohoax, BY LAW, is picked up and jailed. There are such laws in many of the “Western” countries around the world.

David Irving a historian, has been beaten by Jewish mobs and jailed several times now, even for writing a book about the second world war and failing to talk about the Holohoax in his WW2 book!

David Cole a Jewish revisionist who showed that the alleged Gas chambers at Auschwitz are all fake and were constructed AFTER the War by the Russian Jewish Communists. He was reportedly threatened, so he recanted his remarks and is now vanished from the revisionist studies.

Fred A. Leuchter, a Gas Chamber construction Expert from US. He wrote “The Leuchter Report: The First Forensic Examination of Auschwitz (Focal Point Publications – 81 Duke Street, London W1M 5DJ”. Because of this he lost his job, ridiculous criminal charges were brought against him, several states “refused to pay him for previously contracted or agreed work”, he was arrested and banned from entering England.

Ernst Christof Friedrich Zündel a publisher, published a booklet written by someone else! For this he was beaten by Jewish Gangs, his house was burned down by Jewish gangs, he was arrested several times and jailed several times. He was even arrested and sent to Europe to be jailed there for a few years. All of this for publishing a booklet and telling the truth!

Robert Faurisson, “He is a recognized specialist of text and document analysis.” Remember the mountains of documents that the Holohoax people always claim to exist for the proof of the holohoax; the so called “Most documented Event in History”. Dr. Faurisson started out as a firm believer of the Holocaust Myth, but then he took a closer look at the evidence. Dr. Faurisson was one of the first people who thoroughly examined the Holohoax documents and came to the conclusion that there are Zero real documented proofs for the Holohoax. All the documents shown as proofs are in one way or another forgeries and fake. He has been beaten to near death by Jewish gangs, and he has been fined and jailed several times, simply for asking to see ONE real non-forgery document for the alleged Holohoax Mythology.

This list goes on and on. Many Scientists, Historians, Politicians, and others have been jailed for simply asking to see a single scientifically valid factual evidence for the Holohoax. The WW2 Jewish holocaust is not a real event that took place on Earth, instead the LAW says that it took place and if you ask for any evidence you go to jail in many of the “western” countries. That is perhaps why you have not seen Richard Krege’s report.

The following are not scientifically valid evidence for Gas chambers: Doctored photographs, forged documents, live Jewish people with or without Tattoos, Survivors having miraculously survived several Gassings only to escape and live with wolves in the forest for many years, paid Jewish eyewitnesses, tortured confessions from German soldiers, and claiming that my hundred year old grandpa went missing during the WORLD WAR in the middle of the WORLD WAR in Europe, therefore the Germans killed him in some diabolical magically disappearing Gas chambers on planet Pluto and erased every trace of it just as the Allies walked in!

Again forget the soil samples, let us all ask the good people at BBC to Show us the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, the Tattooed Jewish Lampshades, and the Jewish Fat Soaps that were shown as almost the only tangible physical evidence for the Holocaust Myth. These were not “Myths” made up by the Nazis. These were claims made by the Jews and shown in the Nuremberg trials. People were Jailed, and Executed based on these “FACTS” that were presented by the American prosecutors at those trials. Go look at the documented survivor stories. Even today, your average Holohoax Survivor talks about having seen them with their own eyes. Lets do a scientific examination of these items. If they can’t show us a few billion Jewish Shrunken Heads that are scientifically proven to have been killed in German Gas Chambers During the Second World War, then the Holocaust did not happen. It is a very simple test. Billions of Jewish Shrunken heads form Gas Chambers equals Holocaust. Can’t find the Shrunken heads equals no Holocaust. It is that simple.

Disclaimer: I myself believe that the WW2 Jewish Holocaust in its entirety took place. I am a total believer of the whole sorted nonsense, I mean story, I mean FACTS. Just in case anyone wants to put me in jail or call me names, remember that in the above statements I am simply stating other people’s opinions and beliefs. I think they are all wrong and The Holocaust is absolutely one hundred percent true.

I grew up in the small town called Malkinia which is just a few kilometers away from Treblinka [or rather Treblinka is just a few kms from Malkinia]. All the trains coming from Warsaw had to go through Malkinia train station – these were true! Even years after the war they were telling us about the smoke seen from the other bank of Bug river… These are not lies! I will never understand the people who deny the facts – it is great to see though that there are still people standing by the truth… no matter how difficult the truth might be…

by ‘they’ i mean my grandparents…

Let Us examine the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, the Tattooed Jewish Lampshades, and the Jewish Fat Soaps that were shown as almost the only tangible physical evidence for the Holocaust Myth. It is a very simple test. Billions of Jewish Shrunken heads form WW2 Gas Chambers equals Holocaust. Can’t find the Shrunken heads equals no Holocaust. It is that simple.

“Disclaimer: I myself believe that the WW2 Jewish Holocaust in its entirety took place. Just in case anyone wants to put me in jail or call me names.”

The Tomb of Rabbi Yehuda bar Iloi in Israel:
“Steep steps go down into the burial-cave, where a stone placard proclaims: “In this place was buried soap that was made from Jews, May G-d Avenge their deaths, murdered by the Germans, May their names be eradicated”. In 1949, there was a public burial ceremony at Rabbi Yehuda Bar Ila’i's cave. Many Jewish residents from Tzfat came and buried the soap made by the Nazis from the fat of murdered Jews. This soap was brought to Israel by an immigrant who survived the inferno.”

Ashkenazic Cemetery Monument to the 6 Million in Cuba:
“Honoring their memory In this place are buried pieces of soap made from Jewish human fat, part of the 6 million victims of the Nazi barbarism of the 20th Century. Peace to their remains.”

There are many other such memorials made and are being made for the Jewish Fat Soaps and the other Holohoax myths.

Yes you are right the Soap Myth was a LIE made up primarily by the Jewish people, just like the rest of the Holohoax “Myth”. On that, I agree with you. Real historians said it was a lie from day one. Real historians say that the rest of the WW2 Jewish Holohoax is also just a series of lies.

Disclaimer: In case you plan to call me more names, I personally totally believe the entire Holocaust Myth. I am simply stating what some other people who are willing to tell the truth about history might say. They can’t help it if they are ideologically driven to find the evidence and fact based truth about historical events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_made_from_human_corpses

“”The idea that “human soap” was manufactured on an industrial scale by the Nazis was published after the war by Alain Resnais, who treated the testimony of Holocaust survivors as fact in his noted 1955 holocaust documentary movie Nuit et brouillard. Some postwar Israelis also referred disdainfully to Jewish victims of Nazism with the Hebrew word סבון (sabon, “soap”).[17]

Though evidence does exist of small-scale soap production, possibly experimental, in the camp at Stutthof concentration camp near Danzig/Gdansk,[18] mainstream scholars of the Holocaust consider the idea that the Nazis manufactured soap on an industrial scale to be part of World War II folklore.[1][2][19][3][20][21][22] Historian Israel Gutman has stated that “it was never done on a mass scale”.[18] In Hitler’s Death Camps: The Sanity of Madness Konnilyn Feig concludes that the Nazis “did indeed use human fat for the making of soap at Stutthof,” albeit in limited quantity. Holocaust historian Robert Melvin Spector writes that “her analysis seems sound, given the known fact that the S.S. used everything it could obtain from its prisoners”, including hair, skin and bones.[23]

In 2006 a sample of the soap archived at the International Court of Justice in The Hague was given for analysis to Andrzej Stołyhwo, an expert in the chemistry of fats from the Gdansk University of Technology in Poland. He concluded that some of the fat in the sample tested was of human origin. The sample of soap had previously been used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremberg trials, but at the time the technology was unavailable to determine whether the soap had been produced from human fat. The human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and Stutthof concentration camp.[24][25]

Today Holocaust deniers employ this controversy to cast aspersions on the veracity of the Nazi genocide.[26]“”

“The idea that “human soap” was manufactured on an industrial scale by the Nazis was published after the war by Alain Resnais, who treated the testimony of Holocaust survivors as fact in his noted 1955 holocaust documentary movie Nuit et brouillard. Some postwar Israelis also referred disdainfully to Jewish victims of Nazism with the Hebrew word סבון (sabon, “soap”).

Though evidence does exist of small-scale soap production, possibly experimental, in the camp at Stutthof concentration camp near Danzig/Gdansk, mainstream scholars of the Holocaust consider the idea that the Nazis manufactured soap on an industrial scale to be part of World War II folklore. Historian Israel Gutman has stated that “it was never done on a mass scale”. In Hitler’s Death Camps: The Sanity of Madness Konnilyn Feig concludes that the Nazis “did indeed use human fat for the making of soap at Stutthof,” albeit in limited quantity. Holocaust historian Robert Melvin Spector writes that “her analysis seems sound, given the known fact that the S.S. used everything it could obtain from its prisoners”, including hair, skin and bones.

In 2006 a sample of the soap archived at the International Court of Justice in The Hague was given for analysis to Andrzej Stołyhwo, an expert in the chemistry of fats from the Gdansk University of Technology in Poland. He concluded that some of the fat in the sample tested was of human origin. The sample of soap had previously been used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremberg trials, but at the time the technology was unavailable to determine whether the soap had been produced from human fat. The human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and Stutthof concentration camp.

Today Holocaust deniers employ this controversy to cast aspersions on the veracity of the Nazi genocide.”

Wiki page : Soap made from human corpses

Such a sad little human being you are Holocaust deniers when you have to hide Anonymous.

You want to debate the Holocaust. Ok lets debate. Your speaking to a son of former Waffin SS Officer in the 19th Latvian Legion.

My Father (later cleared by Allies) Saw it in action what the Germans were doing to the Jews..

Now come on little man come out of hiding and lets debate shall we?

Your a Anti-Semite just a jew hating little coward of a Semite.. That wish to god that holocaust didn’t happen so that you can go on hating guilt free.

Now come out and lets debate.

“Tests show that Nazis used human remains to make soap”
The Nazis used human fat to make soap during World War II in a Nazi German medical academy located in what is now the Polish Baltic sea port city of Gdansk, Polish war crimes prosecutors confirmed on Friday, pointing to new laboratory tests.

Officials with Poland’s Institute for National Remembrance (IPN) based their findings on a laboratory analysis of a piece of soap found in 1945 in the medical academy in Gdansk run by Nazi German Professor Rudolf Spanner.

A new laboratory analysis of the soap revealed human fat was one of its components, spokesperson for the Gdansk branch of the IPN, Paulina Szumera, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur in a telephone interview on Friday.

Commissioned by the IPN, Professor Andrzej Stolyhwo of the Warsaw Agricultural University found human tissue in the soap.

The piece of soap was used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremburg Trials where prominent German Nazis were prosecuted for crimes against humanity. At the time, prosecutors lacked the technology to determine whether the soap contained human tissue.

Human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and the Stutthof Nazi German concentration camp located about 30 from Gdansk.

The IPN investigation found that the soap in question produced by Professor Spanner was used to clean operating and autopsy rooms. — Sapa-dpa

Holocaust deniers ply their mendacious poison everywhere, especially with young people on the Internet. Deniers seek to distort the truth in a way that promotes antagonism against the object of their hatred, or to deny the culpability of their ancestors and heroes. Humanity has an obligation to counter their lies. If we ignore them, they will twist the minds of countless young people, creating a new generation of those who deny the facts of the worst episode of genocide in history.

My Father was forced at gun point to serve in the German Army during the Nazi occupation of Latvia. He saw with his own eyes what the Germans were doing.. If you spoke up against it you were shot on sight. .. I thank God that my Father was in a infantry fighting unit on the Eastern Front his cleared US/UK Paperwork shows this. Still he taught us ‘Never to Forget’ and never keep silent when an injustice is being committed.

My Mom and her Family were Latvian Who fled Latvia as the Soviet Union Occupied. They ended up in “Displaced Persons Camp” with some 300,000 others in still Nazi Germany. For the life of them no one could figure out why there was a constant black smoke of meat filling the entire area of where the camp was located. .. They couldn’t figure out until one day were walking the main road into nearby villages to barter and trade.. .. A part of that road past the back fences of Dachau. It was only learned after the war upon the USA Liberation of the area.. The so called “Displaced Latvians were 3rd on the list to be exterminated” That’s why the Germans had moved them all into a Sub Camp of Dachau to wait their special treatment following the Poles and Jews.

I know I shouldn’t hate.. Nor in anyway disrespect the dead… But I truly feel that Jewish community should allow one of the Mass Graves at Treblinka to be opened and shown to world.. The deepest one. And then one by one we force each and every Holocaust denier to spend the night in it.

Lastly let us not forget the Holocausts that the Soviet Union Committed Under Stalin and the Communists. The some 35,000,000 – 75,000,000 victims of Communist Slave Labor, Death Camps and out right murder squads. “Uncle Joe!” Which the British and Americans slapped on the back as friend in World War II.

Still that is nothing compared to the Holocaust against the Jewish People. The deliberate GENOCIDE of entire people based on their ethnic and religious background. That boggles this Anthropologist mind even to this day..

NEVER FORGET! And NEVER AGAIN!

Edgars F

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A few inches above on this same page I ask you to show us the billions of Jewish fat soaps, Jewish Shrunken Heads, and the Tattooed Jewish skin lampshades that were shown as almost the only physical evidence for the Holohoax. To this you basically say that the Jewish soap is a myth made up by the deniers and no respectable Jewish person has ever said it or believed it (you said: “The soap myth is just that – a myth. Incidentally debunked by real historians, not ideologically driven amateurs like yourself.”). So I show you that the Jews have murdered Germans based on this Soap “myth” and have even got memorials erected to the Jewish Fat soaps around the world. So suddenly you change your mind and say that in fact your father saw the Germans do all these horrible things and yes all historians know that the Germans made Jewish fat soaps! (you said: “Tests show that Nazis used human remains to make soap”)

Okay, which is it? make up Your mind before typing your next response. Is the Jewish fat soap fact or myth? Or is this another one of the Famous Jewish dual ambiguity beliefs that keep changing depending on which answer best suites the moment at hand?

Disclaimer: The answer above is what a truth telling historian might give, not someone like me who is believer of the entire Holohoax mythology without any questions.