New evidence of mass graves found at Treblinka

Treblinka on fire during prisoner revolt of August 2, 1943A team of archaeologists from the University of Birmingham have discovered new evidence of huge mass graves on the former site of the Nazi extermination camp Treblinka.

Since the Nazis razed the camp in November of 1943 after a prisoner revolt, leaving little visible evidence of the 800,000+ Jews they’d slaughtered in just over a year of operation, Holocaust deniers have claimed that Treblinka wasn’t a death camp at all, but rather a transit station where prisoners were sorted before being shipped off to other labor camps. (Interestingly, that’s just what the SS told new arrivals before making them undress and sending them to the “showers” for “delousing.”)

This is the first coordinated scientific attempt to locate graves at Treblinka. Led by forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls, the research team used ground-penetrating radar and aerial and satellite imagery to look for burial sites without breaking ground, out of respect for Jewish Halacha law which forbids disturbing burial sites.

Bomb crater exposes buried bones, Treblinka, 1945Sturdy Colls said: “All the history books state that Treblinka was destroyed by the Nazis but the survey has demonstrated that simply isn’t the case.”

She added: “I’ve identified a number of buried pits using geophysical techniques. These are considerable in size, and very deep, one in particular is 26 by 17 metres.”

Treblinka excavator digging mass grave pitsDug by an enormous excavator from the quarry at the nearby Treblinka I forced labour camp, each of these large pits are thought to contain the charred remains of thousands of bodies. Some of the pits were used for burial, others as cremation pits. In March 1943, Heinrich Himmler visited the camp and ordered that all the bodies be cremated. The burial pits were opened and the corpses burned on cremation grates built out of railway tracks. There are pictures extant of the resulting ash heaps.

BBC Radio 4 will air a program following the Colls’ work at Treblinka. The Hidden Graves of the Holocaust first airs on Monday, January 23 at 8:00 PM.

A more personal witness to the horrors of the Holocaust can be found in a remarkable book recently published by the Auschwitz Memorial and Museum: The Sketchbook from Auschwitz. In 1947, Józef Odi, a former prisoner who was working as a watchman on the Auschwitz grounds, found 32 sketches on 22 pages rolled into a bottle and hidden in the foundations of a barracks near the gas chambers and crematoria.

These incredible works of art, beautiful and horrifying in equal measure, are the only drawings made in Birkenau to depict the extermination of Jews. They are signed with the initials MM, so we don’t even know the name of the artist. We know from some of the depictions that they were made in 1943 and that the artist was immensely courageous to make these detailed drawings recording the systematic mass-murder of Jews, including badge numbers of functionary prisoners, license plates of trucks and train cars.

This is the first time all of the MM sketches have been published.

Prisoner steps forward at roll call The crematorium at work The separating of families

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Comment by Blake
2012-01-19 10:10:34

It’s amazing to me that an event as thoroughly documented and investigated as the Holocaust can still end up producing such a gigantic new find.

Does anyone know how pictures from Birkenau ended up at Auschwitz?

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-19 13:57:56

Birkenau is part of the Auschwitz complex. Auschwitz I came first. Then the Nazis expanded their murder operations and built a larger extermination camp called Auschwitz II-Birkenau. Birkenau was the name of a Polish village formerly on the site. The Nazis destroyed the village to make space for the expanded camp.

 
 
Comment by David
2012-01-19 13:57:15

Love your blog. Discoveries such as this, or the Ferguson ‘flat earth’ map, demonstrate so well the horrors of religion. Thanks.

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-21 00:32:14

Thank you, David, although I think Nazism isn’t so easily attributed to religion unless all violent doctrinaire political philosophies count as religion.

I admit I have a fondness for religious art despite my personal irreligion, which is why I adore Ferguson’s crazy map. As an artwork, it’s spectacular. :)

 
 
Comment by Edward Goldberg
2012-01-20 02:25:10

David, in the present case, you are referring to the “National Socialist Religion” I imagine? Ed G.

 
Comment by J Gillard
2012-01-22 19:32:14

The Holocaust never happened so this “New Evidence” is just more of the same old lies…

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-22 22:31:07

I find it wryly amusing how cowardly Nazis are today. Did it start with Eichmann, I wonder, this pathetic inability to admit that you not only systematically mass-murdered millions of people but took pride in your execution of the Final Solution? Naw, because Himmler had Treblinka destroyed way back in the 1943. Looks like Nazis have been spineless cowards since the beginning.

 
 
Comment by E Nielsen
2012-01-23 08:43:32

As a historian I have worked with Holocaust for some years, and I have visited the main sites (except Belsec). I find this very interesting indeed. I believe similar attempts have been made at Sobibor, although using more intrusive methods.

This really isn’t about “proving” the Holocaust; I have no time for the deniers. It is about finding facts and minutiae of History, bringing to light and life what happened in this dark and deliberately obscured period.

 
Comment by R Sarna
2012-01-23 09:56:19

@JGillard

Going on the presumption that you failed basic secondary school history (otherwise you would never have made the above comment) I’m not going to ask you to give any kind of reason for your view (mainly because i don’t want to read any Neo-Nazi propaganda, thank you very much) I’m simply going to suggest that you listen to this programme when it airs and actually attempt to understand (Don’t worry if it’s a bit beyond you, just go to BBCiplayer and listen again until you manage to understand all the long words) and perhaps show a bit of human compassion (if at all possible). Then go online and google holocaust… then once you’ve got some grasp of the topic come back and make a comment vaguely resembling intellegent.

Please remember that my great-aunt was incarcerated at Auschwitz and had the six digit tattoo to prove it (she died eight years ago, and i am old enough to remeber seeing the tattoo first hand). If that’s not enough then google the Nuremburg trials, it happened and they admitted it even if “we were just following orders” was the worst possible defence ever written.

I have proof that the holocaust happened and your denial is the worst possible insult.

 
Comment by Keith Braidwood
2012-01-23 10:05:00

Although not an historian, I am interested in this period of history and will be listening to the radio programme with some interest. The excellent BBC mini-series Auschwitz – The Nazis and the Final Solution has a couple of eye-witness accounts from people who were there at Treblinka. It also has interviews with Oscar Groening, a German soldier who worked at Auschwitz. At the end of the war he, understandably, did not mention this but later realised that the deniers were overly vocal. He came forward to state categorically that it DID happen. It is important that such sites are investigated, documented and preserved for future generations. Indeed, Hitler’s eastern headquarters at th Wolfsschanze is being upgraded to provide better hotel accomodation for its many visitors.

 
Comment by Tuesday
2012-01-23 14:15:19

I, too, look forward to the broadcast as most (all) of you. What I can’t figure out is the point of anyone who appears to refute documented facts in (recent) history.

The Holocost was not ancient history. This isn’t like debating if there was a Lost city of Atlantis, or interpretting ancient cave dwelling images. If someone isn’t on board with translating those cave drawings into extra-terrestrials landing on Earth and giving tutorials to the Egyptions re: Pyramid construction for Dummies…ok. I get it. A little too too much for some. No problem. But claiming none (or most) of the events didn’t take place during a war that was a mere 60 years ago is laughable. It’s either a case of Internet trolling..an intentional post, comment, remark, question or image..designed to rile, create un-rest, or cause a stir..

Or, an individual who enjoys being contrary to one and all. Contradicting facts being their personal M.O. Everyone says white, the pot-stirrer says black. Anti-social..a real rebel without a cause. Yeesh.

For every document found, there is still so much yet to be discovered and investigated re: the Death Camps and it’s occupants. There are still people who are survivors out there to tell the tale and it can be proven.

Here’s to learning all we can.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-01-24 01:17:47

This is not the first time that such studies have been done. This new study by the BBC is only done to confuse and cover up the facts that were discovered by the earlier studies by Richard Krege, an Australian engineer:

“For six days in October 1999, an Australian team headed by Richard Krege, a qualified electronics engineer, carried out an examination of the soil at the site of the former Treblinka II camp in Poland. … Krege’s team used an $80,000 Ground Penetration Radar (GPR) device, which sends out vertical radar signals that are visible on a computer monitor. GPR detects any large-scale disturbances in the soil structure to a normal effective depth of four or five meters, and sometimes up to ten meters. (GPR devices are routinely used around the world by geologists, archeologists, and police.) In its Treblinka investigation, Krege’s team also carried out visual soil inspections, and used an auger to take numerous soil core samples…. The team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, Krege and his team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes, or wood ashes….. Krege says that he would welcome the formation, possibly under United Nations auspices, of an international team of neutral, qualified specialists, to carry out similar investigations at the sites of all the wartime German camps.”

Just for laughs why doesn’t the BBC do a scientific investigation for a change? Say for example go and investigate the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads that according to the Nuremberg trials were made by the bad, bad Germans! Or figure out why the Germans carefully tattooed and kept records of people who were to be Gassed to death in less than thirty minutes? According to the Holocaust-Myth the people who got to the camps were ALL killed in less than 30min in gas chambers, yet they have NEVER shown even one single body Jewish or otherwise that was killed in a German gas chamber during the second world war; NOT ONE BODY! There should be billions of them according to the Holocaust religion priests, but no one could ever find one! Considering that the Allies supposedly walked into these camps while the mythical gasings were taking place and they did thousands of medical examinations of the people in Poland, live and dead, they should have found at least ONE!

So, leave the soil alone and let’s scientifically examine the billions of Jewish Shrunken heads, Tattooed Jewish skin lampshades, and Jewish fat soaps that the Nuremberg trials tried to show as undeniable evidence for gas chambers, because they could not find any real evidence! :p

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-24 02:01:56

I have a wartime picture in this very post of huge earth movers digging on the grounds of Treblinka. There are craters from Allied artillery that are still discernible with the naked eye. The local Poles dug so fervently looking for Jewish gold after the Nazis closed the camp that Ukranian guards were sent to keep them out. Polish officials excavated Treblinka in November of 1945, and even if you don’t believe their detailed reports of having discovered 2 hectares of human ashes and vast pits of decomposing human remains, they still disturbed the soil on a large scale.

It’s therefore risible on its face that Krege’s team, which was of course sponsored by a Holocaust denial “think tank,” for want of a better term, found no large-scale disturbances. The Holocaust denial organization that wrote the second paragraph of your comment 12 years ago claimed Krege was preparing a “detailed report on his Treblinka investigation.” Where is this report? I’ve searched high and low for it and it doesn’t exist. There are only news stories and revisionist propaganda outlets repeating the same summary. But I’m sure you must have seen this report, right? Since the evidence is so important to you, surely you wouldn’t repeat a fourth-hand rumor about a study without having seen the study itself, right?

 
 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-01-24 03:49:59

First of all I’m not a Holocaust Denier. Being of Latvian-American origin my own family saw the Holocaust take place in Nazi occupied Latvia. Secondly my University Education is Cultural Anthropology not Physical Anthropology. Yet, I’ve done extensive research on the Treblinka site read the maps, testimony of the escapees and trial accounts. And seen models made by the survivors.

I do see a major inconsistency in Caroline Sturdy Colls reported locations of burial pits. She places the major burial pits smack in the middle of the Camp II Sorting Yard and Sorting Warehouses according to Richard Glazers’ account where these were located.

Secondly the reported gas chamber foundations are in consistent with eye wittiness accounts. These reported location would lay in the earthen mounds the Nazis had employed to hide the upper camp from eyesight.

Third in consistency. The location of the “undressing huts” far to south and where is “the tunnel” the victims were forced to march to their fate?

Fourth, Her reported burial pits do correspond with the Polish and Red Army survey of 1947 to descriptions of looter pits they discovered upon their visit and final cordoning off of Treblinka in 1947.

Perhaps I’m missing something. Might be there more detailed site of her teams findings? Or will shall this data be published?

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-24 15:28:37

She has presented her findings to the Treblinka memorial organization, but as far as I can tell, it hasn’t been published online or in a journal yet. You can find more details about her discoveries in this interview and you can see a couple of her maps of the camp site in this BBC article. If you haven’t listened to the BBC radio program yet, here’s the link to that. I’ll be sure to post any updates to the story.

 
 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-01-24 06:39:13

J Gillard – Holocaust never happened

so where are the 6 million jews that lived in europe ?

 
Comment by Salvo
2012-01-25 05:03:02

You, Sir, are delusional at best.

Exactly where had Krege published anything about his trip to Treblinka? No, a single picture and a blurb does not count.

Since Krege himself is unable to publish his report, and every holocaust denier on the planet seems unable to provide any verifiable information on the results or the methodology of this nonexistent report, you have a choice when it comes to how you want to be judged. Your choices are to either be branded a liar, or an ignoramus. We cannot rule out the possibility of both, however.

The soap myth is just that – a myth. Incidentally debunked by real historians, not ideologically driven amateurs like yourself.

 
Comment by Salvo
2012-01-25 05:04:25

My comment was a reply to: Anonymous’ post 2012-01-24 01:17:47.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-01-25 05:49:47

What happened to six million human beings?

Simple math

Dig a pit 26 meters wide 7 meters deep. Take one person and cremate them reducing them to ash and bone weighting .91 kilograms. How many human beings would then be needed to fill that pit?

Once you figure out the simple math. You have a pretty good idea of what happened to all those Jewish victims.

Such places Birkenau had pits of 70 to 100 meters by 7 meters. Human fat still to this day seeps up to the surface after a hard rain and much of the surround forest is off limits since you’ll sink up to your knees into ash dumps.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-01-25 21:42:01

So you ask for a “detailed report on his Treblinka investigation.” That is a fair thing to ask for. I mention the Krege’s report simply because the BBC statements make it appear as if such Ground penetrating radar studies have never been done by anyone else in the past. But consider the fate of those who went down the path of writing a truthful report on the Holocaust Myth. Firstly, Who will publish it for them? There may be such a report on some obscure webpage that has not been terminated yet, but no scientific journal would dare to publish such a report. Take a look at those who wrote similar reports in the past:

Germar Rudolf a chemist wrote the The Rudolf Report: “Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz (2001)”, he was picked up and put in jail. Not by fact, but rather BY LAW the holocaust happened and any one who asks or looks for factual evidence or presents Facts about the Holohoax, BY LAW, is picked up and jailed. There are such laws in many of the “Western” countries around the world.

David Irving a historian, has been beaten by Jewish mobs and jailed several times now, even for writing a book about the second world war and failing to talk about the Holohoax in his WW2 book!

David Cole a Jewish revisionist who showed that the alleged Gas chambers at Auschwitz are all fake and were constructed AFTER the War by the Russian Jewish Communists. He was reportedly threatened, so he recanted his remarks and is now vanished from the revisionist studies.

Fred A. Leuchter, a Gas Chamber construction Expert from US. He wrote “The Leuchter Report: The First Forensic Examination of Auschwitz (Focal Point Publications – 81 Duke Street, London W1M 5DJ”. Because of this he lost his job, ridiculous criminal charges were brought against him, several states “refused to pay him for previously contracted or agreed work”, he was arrested and banned from entering England.

Ernst Christof Friedrich Zündel a publisher, published a booklet written by someone else! For this he was beaten by Jewish Gangs, his house was burned down by Jewish gangs, he was arrested several times and jailed several times. He was even arrested and sent to Europe to be jailed there for a few years. All of this for publishing a booklet and telling the truth!

Robert Faurisson, “He is a recognized specialist of text and document analysis.” Remember the mountains of documents that the Holohoax people always claim to exist for the proof of the holohoax; the so called “Most documented Event in History”. Dr. Faurisson started out as a firm believer of the Holocaust Myth, but then he took a closer look at the evidence. Dr. Faurisson was one of the first people who thoroughly examined the Holohoax documents and came to the conclusion that there are Zero real documented proofs for the Holohoax. All the documents shown as proofs are in one way or another forgeries and fake. He has been beaten to near death by Jewish gangs, and he has been fined and jailed several times, simply for asking to see ONE real non-forgery document for the alleged Holohoax Mythology.

This list goes on and on. Many Scientists, Historians, Politicians, and others have been jailed for simply asking to see a single scientifically valid factual evidence for the Holohoax. The WW2 Jewish holocaust is not a real event that took place on Earth, instead the LAW says that it took place and if you ask for any evidence you go to jail in many of the “western” countries. That is perhaps why you have not seen Richard Krege’s report.

The following are not scientifically valid evidence for Gas chambers: Doctored photographs, forged documents, live Jewish people with or without Tattoos, Survivors having miraculously survived several Gassings only to escape and live with wolves in the forest for many years, paid Jewish eyewitnesses, tortured confessions from German soldiers, and claiming that my hundred year old grandpa went missing during the WORLD WAR in the middle of the WORLD WAR in Europe, therefore the Germans killed him in some diabolical magically disappearing Gas chambers on planet Pluto and erased every trace of it just as the Allies walked in!

Again forget the soil samples, let us all ask the good people at BBC to Show us the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, the Tattooed Jewish Lampshades, and the Jewish Fat Soaps that were shown as almost the only tangible physical evidence for the Holocaust Myth. These were not “Myths” made up by the Nazis. These were claims made by the Jews and shown in the Nuremberg trials. People were Jailed, and Executed based on these “FACTS” that were presented by the American prosecutors at those trials. Go look at the documented survivor stories. Even today, your average Holohoax Survivor talks about having seen them with their own eyes. Lets do a scientific examination of these items. If they can’t show us a few billion Jewish Shrunken Heads that are scientifically proven to have been killed in German Gas Chambers During the Second World War, then the Holocaust did not happen. It is a very simple test. Billions of Jewish Shrunken heads form Gas Chambers equals Holocaust. Can’t find the Shrunken heads equals no Holocaust. It is that simple.

Disclaimer: I myself believe that the WW2 Jewish Holocaust in its entirety took place. I am a total believer of the whole sorted nonsense, I mean story, I mean FACTS. Just in case anyone wants to put me in jail or call me names, remember that in the above statements I am simply stating other people’s opinions and beliefs. I think they are all wrong and The Holocaust is absolutely one hundred percent true. :hattip:

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-26 17:06:32

In other words, you have no idea what Krege did or did not do, what he found or did not find, because despite his promise that a full report was forthcoming and despite the endless piles of Holocaust denial plastered all over the Internet without a single repercussion for the posters, poor Krege would be treated meanly if he did what he said he’d do. How predictable.

 
 
Comment by Justyna
2012-01-26 17:22:50

I grew up in the small town called Malkinia which is just a few kilometers away from Treblinka [or rather Treblinka is just a few kms from Malkinia]. All the trains coming from Warsaw had to go through Malkinia train station – these were true! Even years after the war they were telling us about the smoke seen from the other bank of Bug river… These are not lies! I will never understand the people who deny the facts – it is great to see though that there are still people standing by the truth… no matter how difficult the truth might be…

Comment by livius drusus
2012-01-26 17:30:20

Beautifully put, Justyna. Thank you.

 
 
Comment by Justyna
2012-01-26 17:23:45

by ‘they’ i mean my grandparents…

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-01-27 04:36:48

Let Us examine the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, the Tattooed Jewish Lampshades, and the Jewish Fat Soaps that were shown as almost the only tangible physical evidence for the Holocaust Myth. It is a very simple test. Billions of Jewish Shrunken heads form WW2 Gas Chambers equals Holocaust. Can’t find the Shrunken heads equals no Holocaust. It is that simple.

“Disclaimer: I myself believe that the WW2 Jewish Holocaust in its entirety took place. Just in case anyone wants to put me in jail or call me names.”

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-01-27 17:45:29

The Tomb of Rabbi Yehuda bar Iloi in Israel:
“Steep steps go down into the burial-cave, where a stone placard proclaims: “In this place was buried soap that was made from Jews, May G-d Avenge their deaths, murdered by the Germans, May their names be eradicated”. In 1949, there was a public burial ceremony at Rabbi Yehuda Bar Ila’i's cave. Many Jewish residents from Tzfat came and buried the soap made by the Nazis from the fat of murdered Jews. This soap was brought to Israel by an immigrant who survived the inferno.”

Ashkenazic Cemetery Monument to the 6 Million in Cuba:
“Honoring their memory In this place are buried pieces of soap made from Jewish human fat, part of the 6 million victims of the Nazi barbarism of the 20th Century. Peace to their remains.”

There are many other such memorials made and are being made for the Jewish Fat Soaps and the other Holohoax myths.

Yes you are right the Soap Myth was a LIE made up primarily by the Jewish people, just like the rest of the Holohoax “Myth”. On that, I agree with you. Real historians said it was a lie from day one. Real historians say that the rest of the WW2 Jewish Holohoax is also just a series of lies.

Disclaimer: In case you plan to call me more names, I personally totally believe the entire Holocaust Myth. I am simply stating what some other people who are willing to tell the truth about history might say. They can’t help it if they are ideologically driven to find the evidence and fact based truth about historical events.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-01-28 00:47:24

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_made_from_human_corpses

“”The idea that “human soap” was manufactured on an industrial scale by the Nazis was published after the war by Alain Resnais, who treated the testimony of Holocaust survivors as fact in his noted 1955 holocaust documentary movie Nuit et brouillard. Some postwar Israelis also referred disdainfully to Jewish victims of Nazism with the Hebrew word סבון (sabon, “soap”).[17]

Though evidence does exist of small-scale soap production, possibly experimental, in the camp at Stutthof concentration camp near Danzig/Gdansk,[18] mainstream scholars of the Holocaust consider the idea that the Nazis manufactured soap on an industrial scale to be part of World War II folklore.[1][2][19][3][20][21][22] Historian Israel Gutman has stated that “it was never done on a mass scale”.[18] In Hitler’s Death Camps: The Sanity of Madness Konnilyn Feig concludes that the Nazis “did indeed use human fat for the making of soap at Stutthof,” albeit in limited quantity. Holocaust historian Robert Melvin Spector writes that “her analysis seems sound, given the known fact that the S.S. used everything it could obtain from its prisoners”, including hair, skin and bones.[23]

In 2006 a sample of the soap archived at the International Court of Justice in The Hague was given for analysis to Andrzej Stołyhwo, an expert in the chemistry of fats from the Gdansk University of Technology in Poland. He concluded that some of the fat in the sample tested was of human origin. The sample of soap had previously been used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremberg trials, but at the time the technology was unavailable to determine whether the soap had been produced from human fat. The human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and Stutthof concentration camp.[24][25]

Today Holocaust deniers employ this controversy to cast aspersions on the veracity of the Nazi genocide.[26]“”

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-01-28 00:50:42

“The idea that “human soap” was manufactured on an industrial scale by the Nazis was published after the war by Alain Resnais, who treated the testimony of Holocaust survivors as fact in his noted 1955 holocaust documentary movie Nuit et brouillard. Some postwar Israelis also referred disdainfully to Jewish victims of Nazism with the Hebrew word סבון (sabon, “soap”).

Though evidence does exist of small-scale soap production, possibly experimental, in the camp at Stutthof concentration camp near Danzig/Gdansk, mainstream scholars of the Holocaust consider the idea that the Nazis manufactured soap on an industrial scale to be part of World War II folklore. Historian Israel Gutman has stated that “it was never done on a mass scale”. In Hitler’s Death Camps: The Sanity of Madness Konnilyn Feig concludes that the Nazis “did indeed use human fat for the making of soap at Stutthof,” albeit in limited quantity. Holocaust historian Robert Melvin Spector writes that “her analysis seems sound, given the known fact that the S.S. used everything it could obtain from its prisoners”, including hair, skin and bones.

In 2006 a sample of the soap archived at the International Court of Justice in The Hague was given for analysis to Andrzej Stołyhwo, an expert in the chemistry of fats from the Gdansk University of Technology in Poland. He concluded that some of the fat in the sample tested was of human origin. The sample of soap had previously been used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremberg trials, but at the time the technology was unavailable to determine whether the soap had been produced from human fat. The human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and Stutthof concentration camp.

Today Holocaust deniers employ this controversy to cast aspersions on the veracity of the Nazi genocide.”

Wiki page : Soap made from human corpses

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-01-28 00:58:41

Such a sad little human being you are Holocaust deniers when you have to hide Anonymous.

You want to debate the Holocaust. Ok lets debate. Your speaking to a son of former Waffin SS Officer in the 19th Latvian Legion.

My Father (later cleared by Allies) Saw it in action what the Germans were doing to the Jews..

Now come on little man come out of hiding and lets debate shall we?

Your a Anti-Semite just a jew hating little coward of a Semite.. That wish to god that holocaust didn’t happen so that you can go on hating guilt free.

Now come out and lets debate.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-01-28 01:13:27

“Tests show that Nazis used human remains to make soap”
The Nazis used human fat to make soap during World War II in a Nazi German medical academy located in what is now the Polish Baltic sea port city of Gdansk, Polish war crimes prosecutors confirmed on Friday, pointing to new laboratory tests.

Officials with Poland’s Institute for National Remembrance (IPN) based their findings on a laboratory analysis of a piece of soap found in 1945 in the medical academy in Gdansk run by Nazi German Professor Rudolf Spanner.

A new laboratory analysis of the soap revealed human fat was one of its components, spokesperson for the Gdansk branch of the IPN, Paulina Szumera, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur in a telephone interview on Friday.

Commissioned by the IPN, Professor Andrzej Stolyhwo of the Warsaw Agricultural University found human tissue in the soap.

The piece of soap was used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremburg Trials where prominent German Nazis were prosecuted for crimes against humanity. At the time, prosecutors lacked the technology to determine whether the soap contained human tissue.

Human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and the Stutthof Nazi German concentration camp located about 30 from Gdansk.

The IPN investigation found that the soap in question produced by Professor Spanner was used to clean operating and autopsy rooms. — Sapa-dpa

 
Comment by Rabbi Dov Coder
2012-02-05 02:04:22

Holocaust deniers ply their mendacious poison everywhere, especially with young people on the Internet. Deniers seek to distort the truth in a way that promotes antagonism against the object of their hatred, or to deny the culpability of their ancestors and heroes. Humanity has an obligation to counter their lies. If we ignore them, they will twist the minds of countless young people, creating a new generation of those who deny the facts of the worst episode of genocide in history.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2012-02-06 01:12:05

My Father was forced at gun point to serve in the German Army during the Nazi occupation of Latvia. He saw with his own eyes what the Germans were doing.. If you spoke up against it you were shot on sight. .. I thank God that my Father was in a infantry fighting unit on the Eastern Front his cleared US/UK Paperwork shows this. Still he taught us ‘Never to Forget’ and never keep silent when an injustice is being committed.

My Mom and her Family were Latvian Who fled Latvia as the Soviet Union Occupied. They ended up in “Displaced Persons Camp” with some 300,000 others in still Nazi Germany. For the life of them no one could figure out why there was a constant black smoke of meat filling the entire area of where the camp was located. .. They couldn’t figure out until one day were walking the main road into nearby villages to barter and trade.. .. A part of that road past the back fences of Dachau. It was only learned after the war upon the USA Liberation of the area.. The so called “Displaced Latvians were 3rd on the list to be exterminated” That’s why the Germans had moved them all into a Sub Camp of Dachau to wait their special treatment following the Poles and Jews.

I know I shouldn’t hate.. Nor in anyway disrespect the dead… But I truly feel that Jewish community should allow one of the Mass Graves at Treblinka to be opened and shown to world.. The deepest one. And then one by one we force each and every Holocaust denier to spend the night in it.

Lastly let us not forget the Holocausts that the Soviet Union Committed Under Stalin and the Communists. The some 35,000,000 – 75,000,000 victims of Communist Slave Labor, Death Camps and out right murder squads. “Uncle Joe!” Which the British and Americans slapped on the back as friend in World War II.

Still that is nothing compared to the Holocaust against the Jewish People. The deliberate GENOCIDE of entire people based on their ethnic and religious background. That boggles this Anthropologist mind even to this day..

NEVER FORGET! And NEVER AGAIN!

Edgars F

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Comment by Anonymous
2012-02-06 23:09:47

A few inches above on this same page I ask you to show us the billions of Jewish fat soaps, Jewish Shrunken Heads, and the Tattooed Jewish skin lampshades that were shown as almost the only physical evidence for the Holohoax. To this you basically say that the Jewish soap is a myth made up by the deniers and no respectable Jewish person has ever said it or believed it (you said: “The soap myth is just that – a myth. Incidentally debunked by real historians, not ideologically driven amateurs like yourself.”). So I show you that the Jews have murdered Germans based on this Soap “myth” and have even got memorials erected to the Jewish Fat soaps around the world. So suddenly you change your mind and say that in fact your father saw the Germans do all these horrible things and yes all historians know that the Germans made Jewish fat soaps! (you said: “Tests show that Nazis used human remains to make soap”)

Okay, which is it? make up Your mind before typing your next response. Is the Jewish fat soap fact or myth? Or is this another one of the Famous Jewish dual ambiguity beliefs that keep changing depending on which answer best suites the moment at hand?

Disclaimer: The answer above is what a truth telling historian might give, not someone like me who is believer of the entire Holohoax mythology without any questions.

 
Comment by Peter
2012-03-02 15:02:26

“I’ve identified a number of buried pits using geophysical techniques. These are considerable in size, and very deep, one in particular is 26 by 17 metres.”
Really Mr Sturdy Colls? Where is your report then? Are there any videos of you in the field identifying those graves? Are there any videos of the crushed bones that “can be seen in the surface after rain”? Are there any samples? Where is the evidence? You people just don´t understand that most people are not holocaust deniers per se, but just skeptic innocent people like me. I hate Nazism and hate idiot Neo Nazis, I just want the truth. We are tired of blablabla, we want evidence. 65 million years after the dinosaurs were extint we can still have skelletons on museums, but 6 million people died and 70 years after not a single body was found on the ground. And now, we have this ultimate expert with the ultimate technologies on a 200×300 m field where 900,000 people were buried, and all we get one year after this “groundbreaking study” is more blablabla on some radio show??? IS THIS A JOKE??? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? WHERE? I´m tired of this bullshit and each day that passes I´m more and more convinced: THE HOLOCAUST JUST DIDN´T HAPPENED!!!

 
Comment by Edgars F
2012-03-02 16:03:41

You mean this evidence?

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ar/modern/archreview.html

Archaeological Investigations

A Review By Historians: Robin O’Neil, Salisbury and Michael Tregenza, Lublin.

Acknowledgment to The Torun Team of archaeologists and the cartographer, Billy Rutherford.

Published with the exclusive permission of the author

Introduction

The investigation carried out at Bełżec by leading archaeologists was historically unique, as no similar investigations had been carried out at the other two designated pure death camps of Sobibór and Treblinka. The magnitude of what occurred in Bełżec has never been fully described in the historical literature until now. According to previous studies, which have always been inhibited by lack of eye-witness evidence, several hundred thousand Jews perished in Bełżec. The archaeological investigations confirm by overwhelming evidence that mass murder was committed here on an unprecedented scale and that there was a determined attempt to conceal the enormity of the crime. In this the Nazis failed. The material unearthed at Bełżec not only confirmed the crime but enabled, by scientific analysis, the historians to re-construct for the first time the probable layout of the camp in the first and second phases.

“… The fourth investigation 1997-2000.

The phases of this most recent investigation were directed by Professor Andrzej Kola, director of the Archaeological at the Nicholas Copernicus University in Toruń, Poland. The principal Investigating officers on site were: Dr Mieczysław Gora, Senior Curator of the Museum of Ethnology in Łódż, Poland, assisted by Dr Wojciech Szulta and Dr. Ryszard Każmierczak. Unemployed males from Bełżec village were engaged in all three investigations to assist with the labour-intensive drilling.”

Mass Grave locations 7 – 33

Grave pit No. 7: initially located in October 1997 is located in the vicinity of symbolic tomb No. 4 at the eastern-central part of the camp. Dimension of the grave (in a shape closely resembling a trapezoid) was determined as 13 m x 14 m., and a height of 27m.at a depth of 4. 50m. the symbolic tomb lay just to the right (south) of the grave. It contained carbonised pieces of wood and fragments of burnt human bones mixed with dark grey ash. Area: 1,600 sq m.

Grave pit No. 8: located at the south-western part of the camp. Dimensions were determined as 28 m x 10 m x 4 m. and contained burnt pieces of human bones and fragments of carbonised wood. Area: 850 sq m.

Grave pit No. 9: located immediately behind symbolic tomb No. 1, next to the northeast fence. Dimensions determined as 10 m x 8 m x 3, 80 m. and contained burnt human remains and pieces of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand. Area: 280 sq m.

(Surface soil/sand in the vicinity of graves 7, 8 and 9 was grey in colour suggesting large quantities of crushed pieces of human bone).

Grave pit No. 10: one of the biggest graves; located in the northern-central part of the camp. Dimension determined as 24 m x 18 m x 5 m. Contained a thick layer of human fat, unburned human remains, and pieces of unburned large human bones. The drill core brought to the surface several lumps of foul smelling fatty tissue still in a state of decomposition, mixed with greasy lime. Area: 2,100 sq m.

Grave pit No. 11: located at north-eastern corner of the camp. Dimension determined as 9 m x 5 m x 1 90 m. and contained a few fragments of burnt human bones mixed with innumerable small pieces of carbonised wood. Area: 80 sq m.

Grave pit No. 12: located immediately to the north of grave No. 10; an L-shaped grave with the foot measuring 20 m, lying to the west. The stem was 28 m in length, pointing north. A small number of pieces of unburned human bones were found at a depth of 3 m, mixed with grey sand and innumerable small fragments of carbonised wood. This layer extended to a depth of 4.40 m. Area: 400 sq m

Grave pit No. 13: located next to the western fence. Dimensions of the grave (trapezoid in shape), was determined as 12.50 m x 11.00 m x at a height of 17 m., (?) 4.80 m. deep. Contained a mixture of burnt human remains and pieces of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand. Area: 920 sq m.

Grave pit No. 14: the largest grave basin in the camp that extended beyond the north fence into the area of the adjacent timber yard. The section within the fence is an irregular zigzag on the south side, measuring 37 m x 10 m at its widest point east to west, and 8 m at its narrowest, and 5 m deep. It contained burnt pieces of human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey, sandy soil to a depth of 5 m. originally; grave No. 14 could have measured ca. 70 m. x 30 m. Area: 1,850 sq m.

(According to witnesses: the first and largest mass grave [No. 14] was dug by members of the Soviet guard unit while the camp was under construction. It took six weeks to complete the task.)

Grave pit No. 15: another small grave measuring 13.50 m x 6.50 m, with a depth of 4.50 m, was situated adjacent to the south side of grave No. 14, and containing a mixture of pieces of burnt human bones fragments of carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 400 sq m.

Grave pit No. 16: located adjacent to grave No. 14 and immediately east of grave No. 15. Measuring 18.50 m x 9.50 m, it contained a mixture of burnt fragments of human bones and carbonised wood to a depth of 4.00 m. Area: 700 sq m.

Grave pit No. 17: situated next to and south of graves 12 and 16, measures 17 m x 7 m 50 m x 4 m. Contained a mixture of pieces of burnt human bones, carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 500 sq m.

Grave pit No. 18: situated next to the southern edge of grave No. 15 and measuring 16 m x 9 m x 4 m. Contained the same mixture of burnt pieces of human bones, carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 570 sq m.

Grave pit No. 19: located within the area formed by graves 14, 15, 18 and 20, and close to the south-western corner of grave 14, measuring 12 m x 12 m and containing a mixture of grey sand, burnt pieces of human bones and carbonised wood to a depth of 4 m. Area: 500 sq m.

Grave pit No. 20: in the form of a long trench at the western end of grave No. 14, and is the last one at the northern end of the group of 18 graves along the north fence. In the same manner as its neighbour, grave No. 14, it also extends beyond the north fence into the area of the adjacent timber yard. The section within the fence measures 26 m. x 11 m x 5 m. At a depth of 4 m. there was found a dental bridge with four false teeth. Area: 1,150 sq m.

Grave pit No. 21: located centrally. Dimensions determined as 5 m sq and situated in the forested southern part of the memorial area, midway between graves 5 and 7. It is also unexpectedly shallow, being only 1.70 m deep and containing pieces of burnt human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand. Area: 35 sq m.

Grave pit No. 22: located in the eastern part of the camp in the shape of an inverted ‘L’, close to grave No. 6. Measuring 27 m on the long (east) side and 10 m on the south side, containing pieces of burnt human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand to a depth of 3.50 m. Area: 200 sq m.

Grave pit No. 23: one of the smaller graves, measuring 16 m x 8 50 m x 4 20 m and located between graves 6 and 21. Contained burnt human remains. Area: 550 sq m.

Grave pit No. 24: a narrow trench measuring 20 m x 5 50 m x 5 m., located at the north fence and next to the eastern corner of grave No. 14. Contained burnt human remains. Area: 520 sq m.

Grave pit No. 25: located immediately to the east of graves 12 and 14. Dimension determined as 12 m x 5 m. Contained a mixture of burnt human remains, including corpses and skeletons, to a depth of 4 m. Below this level, there was a 1 m deep layer of waxy fat and greasy lime. A foul odour was released when the drill penetrated the layer of corpses and the drill core withdrew lumps of decaying fatty tissue and large pieces of bone. Area: 250 sq m.

Grave pit No. 26: another small grave, measuring 13 m x 7 m x 4.20 m, and located immediately next to the eastern edge of grave No. 25. Contained a mixture of burnt human remains. Area: 320 sq m.

(Note: The soil above and around graves 25 and 26 is covered with a layer of

innumerable small fragments of burnt human bones and small pieces of carbonised wood)

Grave pit No. 27: measuring 18.50 m x 6 m x 6 m, and situated close to the north end of grave No. 25. Contained burnt and unburned human remain: the top layer consists of burnt human bones and carbonised wood beneath which there is a layer of grey, waxy lime. The bottom of the grave contains completely decomposed human remains mixed with putrid smelling greasy human fat. Area: 450 sq m.

Grave pit No. 28: one of the smallest graves measuring 6 m x 6 m x 5 m, located between grave 27 and the north fence. Containing burnt human remains beneath which there is a layer of grey greasy lime. The bottom of the grave is lined with putrid smelling, greasy human fat. Area: 70 sq m.

Grave pit No. 29: measuring 25 m x 9 m x 4.50 in the form of a long trench and located just to the north- east of grave 26; its eastern corner is immediately in front of symbolic tomb No. 1. Contained pieces of burnt human bones mixed with fragments of carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 900 sq m.

Grave pit No. 30: located in the north angle between graves 26 and 29 and measured 5 m x 6 m. Contained pieces of burnt human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand to a depth of 2 70 m. Area: 75 sq m.

Grave pit No. 31: similar in size to grave No. 30, measuring 9 m x 4 m x 2 60 m. Situated next to the north fence between graves 28 and 29, this grave also contained a mixture of burnt pieces of human bones, fragments of carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 90 sq m.

Grave pit No. 32: situated close to the north corner of the memorial site between graves 9, 13, and measures 15 m x 5 m. Contained a mixture of burnt human bones and carbonised wood mixed with grey sand, beneath which there is a layer of grey, greasy lime and a foul smelling layer of human fat containing decomposing human remains. The drill core brought to the surface pieces of skull with skin and tufts of hair still attached. At the bottom of the grave, at a depth of 4.10 m. lay a large number of unburned human bones. The path to the small gate near the north corner of the memorial area passes over the southern end of the grave. Area: 400 sq m.

Grave pit No. 33: a small, shallow grave measuring only 9 m x 5 m x 3 m, located in the extreme north-eastern corner of the memorial site. Contained tiny fragments of burnt human bones mixed with small pieces of carbonised wood and grey sand: 120 sq m.

The total surface of the mass graves is estimated at 21,000 cubic metres. At least a dozen graves still contain today unburnt, partially mummified or decomposing corpses. Exactly why the SS did not empty all the graves and destroy their contents is not known; they were in no hurry to leave the area as the entire SS – garrison was redistributed to other camps in the Lublin District for at least five months after the liquidation of Bełżec.

Further investigations with Metal Detector.

Carried out by the author, produced a miscellaneous collection of enamel kitchenware and assorted scrap metal. Further sweeps of the area located a metal door kitchen to a stove, and assorted pre-war Polish coins. The only item of interest was a (another) silver cigarette case with no inscription.

Ramp Area

Continued investigations at the Ramp were carried-over from the 1997 investigation. Analysing the 1940 and 1944 aerial maps the two rail tracks are clearly shown entering the death camp. These tracks were not built specifically for operations within the camp but were there because the area, on which the camp was built, had previously been a logging area pre-war. This was undoubtedly one of the main reasons why the death camp was built at this location. This evidence also confirms that the ‘Otto line’ was built subsequent to May 1940, as there is no photographic evidence to show its existence before that date.

In the first phase of Bełżec, only a limited number of wagons (20) at a time could be accommodated because the uneven ground rises steeply at the southern end, which made any further extension of the tracks impossible. The second Ramp, constructed initially to handle the bigger transports from Kraków which commenced on 3 June, was the same length and could also only accommodate 20 wagons at a time.

Close examination of the 1944 aerial photograph, and the ground scarring, clearly indicates this. . The Luftwaffe aerial photo taken in May 1944 shows that the spur line had been partly removed, probably when the camp was decommissioned and destroyed. The archaeologists corroborate the extent and termination of the rail tracks into the camp but came to their conclusions from a different direction.

Examination of the 1944 aerial photographs indicates the presence of freight wagons on a siding just outside the former camp entrance. Further examination and measurement show that it was possible to accommodate 20 wagons, plus the locomotive on Ramp ‘A’ (first phase) and at least 20 wagons on the second Ramp (constructed for phase 2 in August 1942). This confirms that it was possible to accommodate at least 40 wagons inside the camp: 20 on Ramp A’, with another 20 on Ramp ‘B’, waiting while the victims on Ramp ‘A’ were being dealt with. (See sketch by former SS guard Schluch below).

By August 1942, the handling of ‘goods’ (Jews) was a well-organised killing machine. This, I would suggest, is the reason why Bełżec in its short life span -compared with Treblinka and Sobibór managed to murder so many people: because a maximum number of wagons could be accommodated on the ramps at same time with less shunting back and forth between station and camp, as was the case in the other two death camps. Conclusions were drawn in collaboration with my colleague Michael Tregenza and mainly supported by the findings of the Kola Report:

YOU CAN READ THE REST OF ARCHEOLOGICAL REPORT at the above link..

There is your Evidence.

Edgars F
Anthropologist.

 
Comment by Edgars F
2012-03-02 16:10:21

“Archaeological Investigations

A Review By Historians: Robin O’Neil, Salisbury and Michael Tregenza, Lublin.

Acknowledgment to The Torun Team of archaeologists and the cartographer, Billy Rutherford.

Published with the exclusive permission of the author”

“Introduction

The investigation carried out at Bełżec by leading archaeologists was historically unique, as no similar investigations had been carried out at the other two designated pure death camps of Sobibór and Treblinka. The magnitude of what occurred in Bełżec has never been fully described in the historical literature until now. According to previous studies, which have always been inhibited by lack of eye-witness evidence, several hundred thousand Jews perished in Bełżec. The archaeological investigations confirm by overwhelming evidence that mass murder was committed here on an unprecedented scale and that there was a determined attempt to conceal the enormity of the crime. In this the Nazis failed. The material unearthed at Bełżec not only confirmed the crime but enabled, by scientific analysis, the historians to re-construct for the first time the probable layout of the camp in the first and second phases.”

“… The fourth investigation 1997-2000.

The phases of this most recent investigation were directed by Professor Andrzej Kola, director of the Archaeological at the Nicholas Copernicus University in Toruń, Poland. The principal Investigating officers on site were: Dr Mieczysław Gora, Senior Curator of the Museum of Ethnology in Łódż, Poland, assisted by Dr Wojciech Szulta and Dr. Ryszard Każmierczak. Unemployed males from Bełżec village were engaged in all three investigations to assist with the labour-intensive drilling.”

“… The total surface of the mass graves is estimated at 21,000 cubic metres. At least a dozen graves still contain today unburnt, partially mummified or decomposing corpses. Exactly why the SS did not empty all the graves and destroy their contents is not known; they were in no hurry to leave the area as the entire SS – garrison was redistributed to other camps in the Lublin District for at least five months after the liquidation of Bełżec. ”

There is the Archeological evidence of the Holocaust.. Sir. Google the entire report. See for you’re self what the archeologists found..

 
Comment by Edgars F
2012-03-02 16:18:06

Continuing parts from the above Paper I posted. Lets see what Archeologists found in those pits shall we??? eh??

“Mass Grave locations 7 – 33

Grave pit No. 7: initially located in October 1997 is located in the vicinity of symbolic tomb No. 4 at the eastern-central part of the camp. Dimension of the grave (in a shape closely resembling a trapezoid) was determined as 13 m x 14 m., and a height of 27m.at a depth of 4. 50m. the symbolic tomb lay just to the right (south) of the grave. It contained carbonised pieces of wood and fragments of burnt human bones mixed with dark grey ash. Area: 1,600 sq m.

Grave pit No. 8: located at the south-western part of the camp. Dimensions were determined as 28 m x 10 m x 4 m. and contained burnt pieces of human bones and fragments of carbonised wood. Area: 850 sq m.

Grave pit No. 9: located immediately behind symbolic tomb No. 1, next to the northeast fence. Dimensions determined as 10 m x 8 m x 3, 80 m. and contained burnt human remains and pieces of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand. Area: 280 sq m.

(Surface soil/sand in the vicinity of graves 7, 8 and 9 was grey in colour suggesting large quantities of crushed pieces of human bone).

Grave pit No. 10: one of the biggest graves; located in the northern-central part of the camp. Dimension determined as 24 m x 18 m x 5 m. Contained a thick layer of human fat, unburned human remains, and pieces of unburned large human bones. The drill core brought to the surface several lumps of foul smelling fatty tissue still in a state of decomposition, mixed with greasy lime. Area: 2,100 sq m.

Grave pit No. 11: located at north-eastern corner of the camp. Dimension determined as 9 m x 5 m x 1 90 m. and contained a few fragments of burnt human bones mixed with innumerable small pieces of carbonised wood. Area: 80 sq m.

Grave pit No. 12: located immediately to the north of grave No. 10; an L-shaped grave with the foot measuring 20 m, lying to the west. The stem was 28 m in length, pointing north. A small number of pieces of unburned human bones were found at a depth of 3 m, mixed with grey sand and innumerable small fragments of carbonised wood. This layer extended to a depth of 4.40 m. Area: 400 sq m

Grave pit No. 13: located next to the western fence. Dimensions of the grave (trapezoid in shape), was determined as 12.50 m x 11.00 m x at a height of 17 m., (?) 4.80 m. deep. Contained a mixture of burnt human remains and pieces of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand. Area: 920 sq m.

Grave pit No. 14: the largest grave basin in the camp that extended beyond the north fence into the area of the adjacent timber yard. The section within the fence is an irregular zigzag on the south side, measuring 37 m x 10 m at its widest point east to west, and 8 m at its narrowest, and 5 m deep. It contained burnt pieces of human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey, sandy soil to a depth of 5 m. originally; grave No. 14 could have measured ca. 70 m. x 30 m. Area: 1,850 sq m.

(According to witnesses: the first and largest mass grave [No. 14] was dug by members of the Soviet guard unit while the camp was under construction. It took six weeks to complete the task.)

Grave pit No. 15: another small grave measuring 13.50 m x 6.50 m, with a depth of 4.50 m, was situated adjacent to the south side of grave No. 14, and containing a mixture of pieces of burnt human bones fragments of carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 400 sq m.

Grave pit No. 16: located adjacent to grave No. 14 and immediately east of grave No. 15. Measuring 18.50 m x 9.50 m, it contained a mixture of burnt fragments of human bones and carbonised wood to a depth of 4.00 m. Area: 700 sq m.

Grave pit No. 17: situated next to and south of graves 12 and 16, measures 17 m x 7 m 50 m x 4 m. Contained a mixture of pieces of burnt human bones, carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 500 sq m.

Grave pit No. 18: situated next to the southern edge of grave No. 15 and measuring 16 m x 9 m x 4 m. Contained the same mixture of burnt pieces of human bones, carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 570 sq m.

Grave pit No. 19: located within the area formed by graves 14, 15, 18 and 20, and close to the south-western corner of grave 14, measuring 12 m x 12 m and containing a mixture of grey sand, burnt pieces of human bones and carbonised wood to a depth of 4 m. Area: 500 sq m.

Grave pit No. 20: in the form of a long trench at the western end of grave No. 14, and is the last one at the northern end of the group of 18 graves along the north fence. In the same manner as its neighbour, grave No. 14, it also extends beyond the north fence into the area of the adjacent timber yard. The section within the fence measures 26 m. x 11 m x 5 m. At a depth of 4 m. there was found a dental bridge with four false teeth. Area: 1,150 sq m.

Grave pit No. 21: located centrally. Dimensions determined as 5 m sq and situated in the forested southern part of the memorial area, midway between graves 5 and 7. It is also unexpectedly shallow, being only 1.70 m deep and containing pieces of burnt human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand. Area: 35 sq m.

Grave pit No. 22: located in the eastern part of the camp in the shape of an inverted ‘L’, close to grave No. 6. Measuring 27 m on the long (east) side and 10 m on the south side, containing pieces of burnt human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand to a depth of 3.50 m. Area: 200 sq m.

Grave pit No. 23: one of the smaller graves, measuring 16 m x 8 50 m x 4 20 m and located between graves 6 and 21. Contained burnt human remains. Area: 550 sq m.

Grave pit No. 24: a narrow trench measuring 20 m x 5 50 m x 5 m., located at the north fence and next to the eastern corner of grave No. 14. Contained burnt human remains. Area: 520 sq m.

Grave pit No. 25: located immediately to the east of graves 12 and 14. Dimension determined as 12 m x 5 m. Contained a mixture of burnt human remains, including corpses and skeletons, to a depth of 4 m. Below this level, there was a 1 m deep layer of waxy fat and greasy lime. A foul odour was released when the drill penetrated the layer of corpses and the drill core withdrew lumps of decaying fatty tissue and large pieces of bone. Area: 250 sq m.

Grave pit No. 26: another small grave, measuring 13 m x 7 m x 4.20 m, and located immediately next to the eastern edge of grave No. 25. Contained a mixture of burnt human remains. Area: 320 sq m.

(Note: The soil above and around graves 25 and 26 is covered with a layer of

innumerable small fragments of burnt human bones and small pieces of carbonised wood)

Grave pit No. 27: measuring 18.50 m x 6 m x 6 m, and situated close to the north end of grave No. 25. Contained burnt and unburned human remain: the top layer consists of burnt human bones and carbonised wood beneath which there is a layer of grey, waxy lime. The bottom of the grave contains completely decomposed human remains mixed with putrid smelling greasy human fat. Area: 450 sq m.

Grave pit No. 28: one of the smallest graves measuring 6 m x 6 m x 5 m, located between grave 27 and the north fence. Containing burnt human remains beneath which there is a layer of grey greasy lime. The bottom of the grave is lined with putrid smelling, greasy human fat. Area: 70 sq m.

Grave pit No. 29: measuring 25 m x 9 m x 4.50 in the form of a long trench and located just to the north- east of grave 26; its eastern corner is immediately in front of symbolic tomb No. 1. Contained pieces of burnt human bones mixed with fragments of carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 900 sq m.

Grave pit No. 30: located in the north angle between graves 26 and 29 and measured 5 m x 6 m. Contained pieces of burnt human bones and fragments of carbonised wood mixed with grey sand to a depth of 2 70 m. Area: 75 sq m.

Grave pit No. 31: similar in size to grave No. 30, measuring 9 m x 4 m x 2 60 m. Situated next to the north fence between graves 28 and 29, this grave also contained a mixture of burnt pieces of human bones, fragments of carbonised wood and grey sand. Area: 90 sq m.

Grave pit No. 32: situated close to the north corner of the memorial site between graves 9, 13, and measures 15 m x 5 m. Contained a mixture of burnt human bones and carbonised wood mixed with grey sand, beneath which there is a layer of grey, greasy lime and a foul smelling layer of human fat containing decomposing human remains. The drill core brought to the surface pieces of skull with skin and tufts of hair still attached. At the bottom of the grave, at a depth of 4.10 m. lay a large number of unburned human bones. The path to the small gate near the north corner of the memorial area passes over the southern end of the grave. Area: 400 sq m.

Grave pit No. 33: a small, shallow grave measuring only 9 m x 5 m x 3 m, located in the extreme north-eastern corner of the memorial site. Contained tiny fragments of burnt human bones mixed with small pieces of carbonised wood and grey sand: 120 sq m.

The total surface of the mass graves is estimated at 21,000 cubic metres. At least a dozen graves still contain today unburnt, partially mummified or decomposing corpses. Exactly why the SS did not empty all the graves and destroy their contents is not known; they were in no hurry to leave the area as the entire SS – garrison was redistributed to other camps in the Lublin District for at least five months after the liquidation of Bełżec. “

 
Comment by Edgars F
2012-03-02 16:38:23

Now Bełżec did not have barracks to house prisoners other then a small work detail. Belezec had train tracks deliberately leading into to the camp area diverted off the main line. So it wasn’t a “Transit” Camp.

So the Germans were not facing out breaks o Typhus in a camp that wasn’t designed to store prisoners what so ever.

It is feeble excuse most Holocaust Deniers give.. that the Germans were facing mass typhus out breaks prisoner in war camps and or transit camps. Thus the Germans some times resorted to mass graves. . That of course is the excuse Holocaust deniers use when their butt is handed to them in a debate…Belzec was neither a POW camp nor a Transit Camp there were no barracks. Thus why are Germans bringing massive amounts of people out to site not desgined to give them housing?

Now the Archeological Evidence. Above CARELY Shows.. that Massive amounts of humans were being “processed” in Belzec and burned and buried in mass graves on the side. The graves were deliberately hidden un marked. Their contents of bodies removed cremated that their ash returned to the pits. Many of the pits were missed or forgotten in clear evidence of haste and to this day continue FULL human remains.

Why???

The Final Solution to the Jewish Question as the Nazi’s called it. And their attempt to hide it as the Russian front approached from the East.

Edgars F

 
Comment by zerosprite
2012-03-05 19:07:21

Krege was debunked years ago; he never published a report, his data collection was extremely suspect, his ‘proof’ has no attributable location on what part of the site he examined, he claimed the ground was undisturbed since the Stone Age despite the fact that there was also a railway cutting, a huge quarry and a cemetery. There is an excellent response to Krege on you tube http://youtu.be/zjEhPPUelbE and, I believe, that this combined with the mass of photographic evidence and the latest GPR surveys categorically exposes Krege as a fraud and a liar.

 
Comment by Peter
2012-03-07 12:57:31

Mr. Edgars F:

Again, the same old failure. You presented us plain text – words – to prove a gigantic homicidal factory with lots of graves on a few hectares soil. Anyone can grab a paper and a pen and start writing, anyone can open microsoft word and start typing.
E.g.: “I went yesterday to the movies, and I saw an alien spaceship. It was 4.5 x 5 x 7 m and their crew was composed by 5 aliens, all of them olive green, all heads oval, not exceding human size”
Sounds like a report, doesn´t it? Yeah right.
Don´t waste your time .. WE DON´T CARE ABOUT PLAIN TEXT ON REPORTS!
In order to believe that Treblinka existed, I need photos of excavations, videos on situ, samples extracted on situ, equipment analyzing data, etc… I honestly don´t care about paper work or some 15 min radio show!
I am an engineer myself and work in the lab, I analyze compounds 200,000 times smaller than thin sand! Are you honestly telling me that in 2012 it is hard to find to provide full info about monstruous graves on a few hectares with 800,000 bodies?
Engineering is so advanced, work with it. I am not saying Treblinka didn´t existed, as a matter of fact I want to believe it existed, but you people are giving us a hard time believing it … This so called ultra advanced investigations, on a scientific perspective, are totally ridiculous! Where is the suport data??
Provide us with technical elements and appropriate information, and maybe sometime we will stop talking .. Until there,as a scientist, I believe nothing.

Peter

 
Comment by Edgars F
2012-03-07 13:59:22

What plain texts?

I’m showing you the evidence as found by accredited tenured and WELL respected archeological team and their founds of investigated site.

Do you know what accredited and tenured means? It means the gentlemen in question have devoted their entire life to their profession and are well respected in their field.

You can connect them directly at their respected University and chat with them on phone and person..

Having worked on archeological teams myself while at university. I’m sure the Professors will have lots and lots and lots of video and photographs as the core samples were pulled up for your interests.

 
Comment by Gworthmore
2012-03-08 06:46:33

These fools, bigots, and mental defectives who spout this rubbish…these so called “holocaust deniers”….why are they worthy of reply and debate?

The history of the Second World War is thoroughly documented as is the Nazi genocide. And it still exists in living memory.

Would you take the time to argue and present evidence to a cretin who proclaimed the sun rose in the west?

Crawl back into your holes you disgusting worms. You’re affronts to human decency.

 
Comment by Anonymus
2012-03-26 22:46:08

We are told that the Allies literally walked into the German’s Camps while the Jews were being gassed and were being made into Tattooed Jewish Skin Lampshades. During the infamous Nuremberg trials THE ONLY evidence the Jews could find for the alleged gas chambers were the Alleged billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, Tattooed Jewish Skin Lampshades, and the Jewish Fat Soaps. Don’t give us more memoirs and survivor stories of living with wolves for twenty years. Don’t give us more forged and faked photographs. Don’t give us more of the tortured confessions of some officer that was tortured to death to get him to confess. SHOW us the billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads and let us do a Scientific Examination of them by independent NON-Jewish NON-Zionist scientists from somewhere other than Israel, Europe, or America. NO Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads means the whole entire Holohoax was lies, not exaggerations or misrepresentations but downright total lies. Where are the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads? No more Holohoax survivor lies. Show us Real scientifically verifiable “Physical Evidence” for your WW1 and WW2 Jewish Holocaust lies. Show us the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads!

Disclaimer: Same as always. See above.

 
Comment by Edgars F
2012-03-26 23:12:54

The only camp that was partly operational and occupied by the Nazi caught in the act was Dachau. Liberated by American forces. The Nazi guards didn’t have a chance to escape, they were literally trying the hide the evidence up the last minute. The American 1st Cav rounded up all 54 guards and shot them by firing squad after forcing them to dig mass gaves for the uncountable dead in the camp. War crime possiblly. But those are breaks.

The rest of the camps were abdandened by the Nazi’s as the front neared. Surivors in the camps (those that were not forced to march to their own deaths) literally lived among hunderds if not thousands of corpses. Such as Bergen-Belsen liberated by the US and British. They rounded up near by German villages and forced them to wittness what was found in the camps.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-03-27 22:34:28

“They rounded up nearby German villages and forced them to witness what was found in the camps.”
Yes they did, and the only evidence they could find to show them was a table filled with: Jewish shrunken Heads, Tattooed Jewish skin lampshades, and Jewish Fat soap! Where are these alleged Proofs of the Jewish Holohoax? Why is it illegal in Europe for a Historian or a scientist to ask to see any real Physical evidence for the Jewish Holohoax?

You are again side-stepping the problem. Show us the Billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads and let independent Scientists examine these Jewish Shrunken Heads, without the fear of being put in jail. No billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, No WW2 or WW1 Jewish Holocaust, it is that simple!

 
Comment by djroomer
2012-03-29 14:51:29

Where do you get the “billions” from? Nobody ever said they found even millions of shrunken heads. You are pretty fucking stupid there mister.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-03-29 21:35:35

“Where do you get the “billions” from?”

Really? Finally you noticed a problem with the WW2 Jewish HoloHoax lies? Finally you realize that documented Scientific Physical Evidence is required for HoloHoax claims? You must be an anti-Semite and a DENIER for not believing in the billions of Jewish Shrunken heads!

You don’t believe the Billions? So How many Jewish Shrunken Heads did the Germans Make? Where is your Evidence? Show us the Jewish Shrunken Heads and let independent Scientists examine these Jewish Shrunken Heads, without the fear of being put in jail. No billions of Jewish Shrunken Heads, No WW2 or WW1 Jewish Holocaust, it is that simple!

Disclaimer: Same as always. See above.

 
Comment by Captain Obvious
2012-04-01 01:03:40

Hmmmm, how about the state of Israel? Coincidentally a state of 6 million jews formed in 1948.

 
Comment by Alley-Cat
2012-04-29 16:26:51

@Anonymous
Now let’s have a look.

David Irving is a notorious Hitler sympathizer who has been completely discredited as a historian by the academic world. He now makes his money by giving lectures to Neo-Nazi groups.

Poor sad little Fred Leuchter blundered his way into Holocaust denial when he went off armed with a hammer and chisel and started chipping chunks off what he thought were the gas chambers at Auschwitz. He had been hired by Mr Zündel (see below) as an expert witness. Zündel was being tried for Holocaust denial in Canada. He paid Leuchter $30,000 to go to Auschwitz and not find evidence of the existence of gas chambers. Leucther’s academic credentials weren’t exactly stellar. The man had degree in History, but claimed to be an engineer. He wasn’t. He admits that he has no knowledge of toxicology, biology or chemistry. He was later taken to court for pretending to be an engineer.There were also a lot of problems with the way the chemical lab analysed the samples, which was later admitted to by the chemist who carried them out. Despite all this “definitive” proof of the non-existence of the gas-chambers,Zündel was found guilty and sent to prison.

Zündel, amongst all the anti-Semitic racist drivel that he has written, Zündel also wrote a book about Hitler’s Secret UFOs. Enough said I think.

Robert Faurisson is a well known anti-Semite, perhaps not the best person to be reading if you want to know the truth about the Holocaust. He has been taken to the French courts on several occasions for Holocaust denial and the court’s rulings have also been upheld by that other “Jew-Bolshevik Zionist” run organisation known as the UN Human Rights Committee. He also questions the veracity of Anne Frank’s diary.

David Cole recanted his previous opinion about the existence of the gas-chambers. I don’t suppose it would enter that tiny little racist brain of yours to believe that he might just have been wrong and has been man enough to admit it?

Germar Rudolf wasn’t simply “picked up and put in jail”. He ran off to America for a few years but was subsequently extradited (he applied for political asylum) and sent back to Germany. He wasn’t convicted of Holocaust denial just because of his “report” (which was flawed anyway), but because he wrote numerous books and pamphlets denying the Holocaust. Something Germans are very sensitive about.

The reason the law says that the Holocaust took place is because there is OVERWHELMING evidence to support this.

By the way the people people you are talking about are not revisionists, they’re simply Holocaust deniers and for the most part anti-Semite racist hate mongers. A bit like you by the sounds of it, notwithstanding your silly little disclaimer at the end of your comment.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-05-24 08:34:01

800 000 bodies to gas, bury, dig up and then cremate is not even physically possible. Take a calculator and pick your number: weight of 800 000 bodies? Size of 800 000 bodies? Time required for cremation / burial / dig up? Number of teeth and bones that has to be crushed? Number of killings required per day? Pick any, and make a fool of yourself. Please, either you’re dumb, either you’re a Zionist puppet.
In any case, this is laughable..

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-05-24 08:38:12

Oh and btw, could someone, ANYONE, please present to the world a body, or a part of a body, that shows it’s been gassed?
Good luck with that. Hang on, if 800 000 corpses were indeed there at some point, it shouldnt be a problem no?
:(

 
Comment by Sanji
2012-05-24 09:15:21

Nazis are evil because of the holocaust
Holocaust is true because no historian refutes it
No historian refutes it because they’ll be imprisoned
Historians are imprisoned for denial, because nazis are evil
It’s called circular logic and its found a lot in the book 1984

Vids such as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzBpcuE8mpc
OR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7tHB8tD34s

should trigger suspicion, what can you say against these? And thats only a fraction of what you can find if you take time to search, and thats just on YT.

And also, Zionists have claiemd the “6 Million” Holocaust about 4 or 5 times since the beginning of the 20th century, I guess this time they actually managed to get it in…and go ahead with the extortion plan. I must say, thats genius.
And lastly, the 6 million dead were already claimed by journalists in the middle of the war. Yes thats right, IT WASNT EVEN OVER YET.
The hell with the Holohoax, and shame to the little human beings who instrumentalised and manipulated War tragedy. And shame on you for swallowing Zionist propaganda blindly and refusing to OPEN YOUR EYES even when facing the mountain of evidences that destroys this horrific myth.

Truth does not fear investigation.

Only a LIE needs the protection of the Law.

When the truth is exposed, Israel and the Zionists will be in deep shit, and this time, unfortunately, innocent Jews will pay the price for their lies…

 
Comment by Bon Jovi
2012-05-29 10:10:05

The pits found by O Neil would never have been enough for the 800 000 alleged bodies. They werent ash when they were buried, but they were cremated afterwards. So it doesnt matter how much space takes the ashes of a cremated body, what matters is where and how they buried 800 000 bodies. Besides, he states 21000 square meters, but Kola, who was there with him says 21 000 cubic meter. Volume and surface is very different, conviniently ignored by O Neil. So the question is: Where were buried the 800 000 bodies? Have you ever consider the time and effort required to do such tasks? Or the time required to cremate 800 000 bodies in an open space? Get a grip for crying out loud. Is it really that hard to see that its a lie without physical evidence? Or do you contemplate your empty sack as real evidence?

 
Comment by Simon
2012-07-03 22:32:17

Nice comments – I enjoyed reading them – these people really are the pits. Unfortunately of course it is a never ending task to argue with somebody like the appropriately named anonymous and as I can see from his/her response he/she has sidestepped the issue of defending these worthless individuals and is now ranting about some other Holocaust Deniers’ hobby horse. Thing is the moment I see the word “Zionist” in a comment I switch off as I know I am dealing with some unemployed (and indeed most likely unemployable) idiot with an IQ in double figures spouting a load of conspiracy theories from some bigoted far right web sites as though it’s new information. Sad.

 
Comment by C Schuster
2012-08-20 15:13:05

!‘Never to Forget’ and never keep silent when an injustice is being committed.
Words to live by!

 
Comment by Anonymous
2012-10-21 04:04:52

An interesting fact was reported in a documentary I was watching on the history of chemical and biological warfare. Although Germany had chemical weapons before WWII, Hitler banned the use of chemical weapons by Nazi forces during WWII. Why is this? Because Hitler himself was a victim of chemical warfare during WWI when he was a serving Lieutenant in the German army he was injured in a mustard gas attack.
So the question is, How then would Hitler have agreed to gassing people in the concentration camps especially with a chemical cocktail like Zyklon B?

 
Comment by LV
2013-04-11 19:48:25

I presume you don’t exist.

 
Comment by LV
2013-04-11 20:07:57

I went to Treblinka as a tourist because I read the book Mila 18. I was very sad after that visit. My previous comment was ment for a denier.

 
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Comment by Bob
2013-06-17 05:40:44

I wouldn’t call the WW2 nazi’s spineless or cowards. Even the einsatzgruppen proved tough when needed in combat. The denial is survival instinct. The nazi mentality is of a ‘follower’ mentality or group/herd mentality. Post war analysis of many nazi’s showed a dreamy/surreal persona, obviously induced by a cultic narcissistic atmosphere. Extreme narcissism ends up with a person that is psychotic…fitting the victims eyewitness accounts of many nazi’s. Cults always work in a hypnotic way.

 
Comment by Bob
2013-06-17 06:32:13

@ E Nielsen… U didn’t make Belzec, that was the beginning. If U like finding facts & minutiae Google up this… “Max Munk cigarette”. What ever happened to Lorenz Hackenholt? I mean Lorenz had to be the 2nd tallest man in nazi Germany behind Kaltenbrunner. How can one that tall & that strange looking have escpaed the dragnet? Biggest mystery ever.

 
Comment by CuriousDave
2013-07-29 18:17:14

There is no evidence to show that Hitler was aware of mass gassings. While some historians follow the “intentionist” theory, that Hitler had planned at an early time to kill all the Jews of Europe, most historians now subscribe to the “fundamendalist” view;, that the Holocaust evolved during WWII and was a series of increasingly extreme measures, ultimately mass murder, conceived nd perpetrated by Hitler’s subordinates. For example, we know that Himmler, his deputy, had visited several extermination camps, but there is nothing to indicate that Hitler himself had visited any or even knew of them. There is not a single document signed or written by him that called for the extermination of the Jews, although, of course, there is his recorded speech before WWII in which he ranted that if the Eurpoean Jewish financiers succeeded in starting another war, it would result in the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe.
The other view suggests that Hitler considered the Jews sub-human; as such, he would hardly have had misgivings about gassing them.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2013-07-31 12:18:22

Quotes of Evil

“ To tell the truth, one did become used to it…they were cargo. I think it started the day I first saw the Totenlager [extermination area] in Treblinka. I remember Wirth standing there, next to the pits full of black-blue corpses. It had nothing to do with humanity — it could not have. It was a mass — a mass of rotting flesh. Wirth said ‘What shall we do with this garbage?’ I think unconsciously that started me thinking of them as cargo….I rarely saw them as individuals. It was always a huge mass. I sometimes stood on the wall and saw them in the “tube” — they were naked, packed together, running, being driven with whips… “

Stangl’s own justification of his actions:

“ What I had to do while I continued my efforts to get out was to limit my own actions to what I — in my own conscience — could answer for. At police training school they taught us that the definition of a crime must meet four requirements: there has to be a subject, an object, an action and intent. If any of these four elements is missing, then we are not dealing with a punishable offense….I could apply this to my own situation — if the subject was the government, the “object” the Jews, and the action the gassing, I could tell myself that for me, the fourth element, “intent”, (I called it free will) was missing “

Franz Paul Stangl (26 March 1908 – 28 June 1971) was an Austrian-born SS commandant of the Sobibor and Treblinka extermination camps during the Operation Reinhard phase of the Holocaust. He was arrested in Brazil in 1967, extradited and tried in West Germany for the mass murder of 900,000 people, and in 1970 was found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty, life imprisonment. He died of heart failure six months later.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2013-07-31 12:24:22

The philosopher John Kekes discusses Stangl and the degree of his responsibility for war crimes in chapter 4 of his book, The Roots of Evil. The court Schwurgericht Düsseldorf found Stangl guilty on October 22, 1970, and sentenced him to maximum penalty, life imprisonment. While in prison, Stangl was interviewed extensively by Gitta Sereny, for a study of him published as Into that Darkness:

“ “My conscience is clear about what I did, myself,” he said, in the same stiffly spoken words he had used countless times at his trial, and in the past weeks, when we had always come back to this subject, over and over again. But this time I said nothing. He paused and waited, but the room remained silent. “I have never intentionally hurt anyone, myself,” he said, with a different, less incisive emphasis, and waited again – for a long time. For the first time, in all these many days, I had given him no help. There was no more time. He gripped the table with both hands as if he was holding on to it. “But I was there,” he said then, in a curiously dry and tired tone of resignation. These few sentences had taken almost half an hour to pronounce. “So yes,” he said finally, very quietly, “in reality I share the guilt. . . . Because my guilt . . . my guilt . . . only now in these talks . . . now that I have talked about it all for the first time. . . .” He stopped.

He had pronounced the words “my guilt”: but more than the words, the finality of it was in the sagging of his body, and on his face.

After more than a minute he started again, a half-hearted attempt, in a dull voice. “My guilt,” he said, “is that I am still here. That is my guilt.”

He died of heart failure nineteen hours after the conclusion of that interview, in Düsseldorf prison on June 28, 1971.

 
Comment by Chris
2013-08-22 22:52:38

One of the questions I have about the whole mess is since “Millions” of people died at various places over such a short period and many of these places were (I presume but maybe wrong) work camps. How could that number of people not fight back since there were more of the victims than the nazi soldiers. There is no way that these people could have not been aware what was going on? I just do not accept that these people willingly died. If they had any knowledge of what was taking place there would have been a massive uprising against those troops and the camp overtaken.

 
Comment by Chris
2013-08-23 15:22:49

In the “American Jewish yearbook” Sept 23 1911 to September 11 1912 on page 308 it states under Russia “Russia has since 1890 adopted a deliberate plan to expel or exterminate six millions of it’s people for no other reason than that they refuse to become members of the Greek church, but prefer to remain Jews.”

1911.
Max Nordau, co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodore Herzl, made an astonishing pronouncement at the tenth Zionist Congress in Basle, Switzerland. He claimed that 6,000,000 Jews would be annihilated. This was twenty-two years before Hitler came to power and three years before World War I started.

1919
Shortly after the end of World War I hostilities, Zionists claim a “Holocaust” of “Six Million Jews” is imminent in Europe in a deceitful campaign to raise money for Jewish charities and also to distract public attention from the Jewish origins of Communism, the Bolshevik atrocities in Russia and the Armenian Genocide.

1922
CALSBAD, Aug. 27 (Jewish Telegraphic Agency).–”The League of Nations is a Jewish idea, and Jerusalem some day will become the capital of the world’s peace,” declared Dr. Nahum Sokolow, Chairman of the Zionist Exocutive Committee, at a special meeting of the Zionist Conference today.

1932
Jews commit a deliberate genocide. To put down nationalist resistance to a Communist takeover, Soviet Dictator Josef Stalin orders the Jewish-dominated Soviet Secret Police (NKVD) to orchestrate a man-made famine in the Ukraine. Stalin’s Jewish deputies and secret police chiefs (Kaganovich, Beria, Yagoda, etc) ruthlessly implement the murderous starvation policy. Between six and seven million Ukrainian men, women and children, are annihilated in this genuine Holocaust. It is now known as the “Holodomor.”

In 1897 the National Jewish Association – Cologne
published its programme (called ‘Theses’):

(ii) Experience has shown that civic emancipation has fallen short
of securing the social and cultural future of the Jewish people.
The Final Solution of the Jewish Question
lies therefore in the establishment of the Jewish State.

1940
Jewish leader Nahum Goldmann predicts “Six Million” Jewish victims before Nazi concentration camps have even fully completed construction.

1944
In September of 1944, eight months before the end of WWII, U.S. Communist (Jewish) Union leaders prematurely proclaim that nearly Six Million Jews have been killed, long before that could have been known or calculated.

Sounds like the number 6 is an important number to some people. I wonder how much that number helped the Zionist in creating the state of Israel?

1976
The influential Zionist leader Nahum Goldmann, co-founder and long-time head of the World Jewish Congress, publishes a book about Jews, The Jewish Paradox. In the book Goldmann candidly admits on pages 122 and 123 that years before the end of the second World War two influential co-conspiring Jews conceived the idea of a post-war Nuremberg show-tribunal and “German reparations” to be paid out to the Jews. Goldmann describes how he, and his fellow conniving Zionists at the World Jewish Congress, intended the reparations swindle to finance Jewish settlement in Palestine after the war.

Is it me or does the “Burnt Offering” sound more like an industry of sorts? To think that I believed in what they taught me in school about the “Holocaust” was a lie. Instead it was a pre-fabricated story made up (By those whom it benefited) years in advance to further a Zionist agenda. The people who make up lies about the people who actually suffered during the war should be ashamed of their actions for using their own people as scapegoats. Holocaust “Deniers” do not deny that people suffered and died. They deny the “Official” story made up by “People who have an agenda” It’s quite funny that it is a crime to ask questions regarding some of the things about the Holocaust. If truth is the truth then you don’t put someone in jail because they have questions about that truth. The truth stands on it’s own and does not become a crime unless their are lies to go along with it.

 
Comment by Chris
2013-08-23 16:25:05

Any truth – or should that be “truth” – which needs to be enforced by law is by its very nature not truth at all – for if it was truth there would be no need for enforcement. Never has been, never will be.

 
Comment by Edgars Freibergs
2013-08-24 18:01:50

@Chris

Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor were not ‘concentration camps’ in the classic sense. There was no housing of prisoners other then a few 200-800 camp workers. They were set up under the Nazi program “Operation Reinhard “ as nothing but extermination camps. The mass most efficient way to exterminate and process a human beings

At Treblinka for example on average each train transport contained from 40-60 box cars with some 100 packed to box car. From the time you were unloaded from the box car until the time the doors on the gas chambers were closed on you. Were twenty minutes

In that twenty minutes you were told that it was just a transit camp after a quick shower change of clothing you’d be allowed into main camp to spend the night and next day on to a new transport to your destination of choice in the East.

Of course you can’t see what’s going in in the camp itself. Because EVERY fence is covered in thick pine branches to hide your view.

Then you’d be driven off the platform with machine gun guards and barking German sheapards. Driven into the undressing buildings, leaving your luggage behind. You were given only 15 minutes to undress. Women would be shaven bald by the barbers and told to hand over last minute valuables.

Then everyone would be driven again by Guards and Dogs into “The Tube” the fenced walkway to the gas chambers disguised as showing hut.

You would not know it was gas chamber until you were inside. But by that time the doors were shut and gas turned on.

Again all of this happened within 10-20 minutes. During which your constantly driven “Hurry Up! Faster! “ and if you were to slow that beat you.

This was done so you don’t have time to think.

 
Comment by chris
2013-08-25 12:36:44

Although it sounds like a good way to kill people as they arrive. There is no documentary evidence that Treblinka was an extermination center. In fact, contemporary records suggest that the camp had a very different function. The most widely-circulated story has been that Jews were gassed at Treblinka with carbon monoxide from the exhaust of a diesel engine.This story is improbable for technical reasons.In spite of the obnoxious odor of diesel exhaust, diesel engines produce much smaller quantities of toxic carbon monoxide than ordinary gasoline motors. It would thus be difficult efficiently to gas large numbers of people using diesel exhaust. A normal gasoline engine would be much more logical. Solid evidence for gassings at Treblinka has proven to be very elusive. For example, it turned out that none of the witnesses in the 1951 West German “Treblinka” court case ever actually saw anyone being gassed. At least some former Treblinka prisoners testified in postwar West German trials that they not only never saw a gas chamber, but did not even hear about gassings from others. All the same, there is no hard or compelling evidence that Treblinka was a mass extermination center where hundreds of thousands of Jews were systematically put to death. To the contrary, credible reports of transfers of Jews from Treblinka eastwards to the occupied Soviet territories, the relative lack of secrecy and security in the camp, and the small size of the area where the bodies were supposedly buried, all suggest instead that this was a transit center. By the way In 1942, systematic mass killing in stationary gas chambers (with carbon monoxide gas generated by diesel engines) began at Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka, all in Poland. Thats the US Holocaust memorial museum site. All of this did not happen within 15 to 20 minutes as you have stated. These are some of the reasons why I cannot believe what the official history books claim about the holocaust. Why was the six million number tossed around since the 1890′s? If many Jews had already been killed in other countries then wouldn’t the six million number be false? Max Nordau, co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodore Herzl, made an astonishing pronouncement at the tenth Zionist Congress in Basle, Switzerland. He claimed that 6,000,000 Jews would be annihilated. This was twenty-two years before Hitler came to power and three years before World War I started.

 
Comment by DiggaD
2013-10-10 10:10:15

this is no answer to the question above i think. his question was, how the drawings got from birkenau to an auschwitz-stammlager barrack. i think he knows the difference between auschwitz 1, 2(birkenau) and 3(buna-monowitz). his question is really appropriate. perhabs the newly found drawings are faked to earn some money with it? im no denier, dont get me wrong, but the holocaust is still a lucrative business. and to make some drawings is no big thing…think about it. and next time you answer a quastion, read it and think about what the other guy could wanted to know…

 
Comment by Kate the Great
2013-12-06 15:57:55

I’ve heard there wasn’t any crematoria at Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec or Chelmno. Why would the Germans build a death camp and not include crematoria?

 
Comment by Anonymous
2014-01-15 14:32:39

I have done some research on the Internet and in fact the average person after cremation leaves behind in excess of 2.5kg mostly bone and teeth. Taking into account official estimates that around 800,000 people were cremated at Treblinka this means that around 1,600 tons of ash and bone would remain. In weight this is around the equivalent of burying 533 family sized cars in the pits at Treblinka. I know the pits were not that large but how deep were they? Perhaps someone with more info than me can respond with a rough guesstimate of whether this was possible? I apologize in advance and with the greatest respect to the victims for this cold calculation.

 
Comment by amy
2014-04-03 21:22:10

awesome!!!

 
Comment by Reno
2014-04-05 15:47:05

That is the problem. There has never been and investigation of the events. Why, because every time it is looked into the proof it didn’t happen emerge. That is also why it is illegal to deny it and anyone who tries to investigate it is jailed. If it is real remove all the laws that prevent it from being proven one way or the other. The jews make millions from this lie while being the greatest mass murders in history. In just Russia they killed over 50 million whites. What is needed is a true jewish holocaust so the world can know peace.

 
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